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Agree, think you'll be safer with the 275/45 combo.
But, the Super 7's had Grabber UHP 295/45/20's fitted with no rubbing
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19th Oct 2009 9:21 pm
bigcarpchaser
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Camberley
Posts: 2270
What RonP says, if going with LTZ's on a newer D3, stick to 275.
Not sure when things changed but changed they have. Top of suspension arm rubs sidewall and the protrusuon on
the chassis rail rubs also.
My terminology is probably all wrong, I'm sure Slimer or Ken will be along with the correct technical lingo.
Mine is a 2008 MY and is obviously different to Ron's.
285 grabbers are fine.
Sorry to go over old ground but it's worth repeating.Welcome "Lola"
19th Oct 2009 9:32 pm
D3Norway
Member Since: 15 Sep 2009
Location: T
Posts: 96
Thanks for the advice guys! I'll be on lookout for some good deals on the Super7's with Cooper Zeon ltz when its time to put on some summertires again..
20th Oct 2009 8:56 am
Boristhespider
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: MARKET RASEN
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Cooper Zeon LTZ All terrain tyres
Hi
If anybody wants any of these cooper zeon AT in 275/40/20 I have just brought three sets of five in from the
states, And now have them in stock here at Duckworth Landrover Market Rasen.Give me a call if you need more details on these on 01673 842101.
Cheers
Rob Robin Hall
Parts Export
Martin Duckworth Ltd
Tel +44 (0) 1673 842101
Fax +44 (0) 1673 844410
Mob +44 (0) 7906 006538
robinhall@duckworthlandrover.co.uk
20th Oct 2009 9:55 am
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10349
Rob, arent 275/40's undersize and not weight rated high enough for the D3?
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20th Oct 2009 10:04 am
D3Norway
Member Since: 15 Sep 2009
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I would think so... 45 is more correct. 40 is correct for the RRS.
255/55-R19 275/40-R20 Endringer Avvik 80 km/t
Omkrets 239.73 cm 228.71 cm -11.02 cm (-4.6 %) 76.15
Diameter 76.31 cm 72.8 cm -3.51 cm
20th Oct 2009 10:16 am
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15261
Just be aware for those thinking on getting some Cooper Zeon tyres.
There are 3 x models.
LTZ - All Terrain
XST - Road
XST A - Road [asymmetric]
For those contemplating the offer from Rob, this would need clarifying.
[although he does state AT]
But yes agree, the 40 profile would be too low for the D3.
Edited and added - just checked the LTZ sizes from the Cooper site and there is no 40 profile on the 275/20 LTZ
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Ron
isnt this a problem:
Zeon LTZ 275/45R20 110 S
From the cooper site, looks like 275/45s are weight rated at 110 and speed rated at S
should I shut up now?
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20th Oct 2009 10:56 am
ronp
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Never really gave the 275/45's a thought.
My 285/50's are 116 load rated, but still S rated.
As it's an AT tyre the S rating certainly isn't a problem for me or the speeds I drive at.
But yes Al, certainly worth pointing out to others for their own consideration.
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20th Oct 2009 11:16 am
Horto22
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 47
Ron
Now that youve had the Zeons for a while what is your opinion of them, in terms of on road & off road grip and tyre noise? Im considering getting a set of 285/50/20's on my D4 when it arives in December. Not quite sure if the suspension changes to the D4 will cause any issue or require additional offset. But given that 19's are the smallest wheel that will fit, the extra hieght of the285/50 Zeon's on 20 inch rims would appear to be the best all terrain tyre option for the D4 aslong as it will fit.
Cheers
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4th Nov 2009 8:36 pm
Horto22
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 47
Ron
Now that youve had the Zeons for a while what is your opinion of them, in terms of on road & off road grip and tyre noise? Im considering getting a set of 285/50/20's on my D4 when it arives in December. Not quite sure if the suspension changes to the D4 will cause any issue or require additional offset. But given that 19's are the smallest wheel that will fit, the extra hieght of the285/50 Zeon's on 20 inch rims would appear to be the best all terrain tyre option for the D4 aslong as it will fit.
Cheers
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4th Nov 2009 8:36 pm
bigcarpchaser
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Camberley
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With the risk of getting boring, I will reiterate one more time only.
Be very careful when fitting 285/50 LTZ's to a Post 2005(?) model year D3 and possibly a D4.
They WILL rub the suspension arms and on full lock the clip the end of the chassis rail.
With 4mm spacers it seems the problem is solved but I'm yet to try myself but hope to in the next few days when I get some spacers.
I'll report back then.
if you can try one before you buy o would strongly recommend you do else you could be wasting big bucks.
As far as the tyre goes performance wise, it seems perfectly fine in grip, it's not overly noisy either.
Great off road and looks the business.
Good deal to be had from Ken if he can get them. Can't be faulted for price or service, top fella.
The only other issue I've had which no doubt is a product if running 20" rims is I've taken a sizable chuck out of the sidewall of one tyre whilst laning at Salisbury.
The lane was covered with particularly large lumps of flint.
I didn't see anyone else that weekend muller a tyre I'm the same way on more conventional sized wheels.
Hope that helps?Welcome "Lola"
4th Nov 2009 9:35 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15261
bigcarpchaser wrote:
The only other issue I've had which no doubt is a product if running 20" rims is I've taken a sizable chuck out of the sidewall of one tyre whilst laning at Salisbury.
The lane was covered with particularly large lumps of flint.
Bl**dy excuses !!!
Here's me, lead D3 on 20" Stormers and LTZ's heading down the precarious Garburn Pass in the Lake District.
No damage to LTZ's whatsoever.
[this is the Pass where a D3 in front [out of sight] blew a front tyre off a rim and had to be roped & secured to me to save falling over the edge whilst 'Willy the Lips' changed it with his mouth blown airbag jack! ]
click to enlarge
or see inside rear of 2010 Disco3 calendar
Rims? .... well that's a different matter, a little bit gouged ...... hence moving back to 19's/MTR's for the more serious off-road stuff .....
nothing to do with the tyres.
In fact, the 20" LTZ in the 285/50 size gives you a fraction more sidewall than a 19" MTR on a 255/55.
Apart from that, I agree with BCP.
The LTZ is an exceptional tyre IMO, a great all rounder with [to me] no extra road noise [but I run a roof rack & lights]!
But as said, be careful on a D4....it's not been done yet !
But please post if you decide to do so.
ps, the 275/45/20 LTZ might be worth considering.
...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
4th Nov 2009 10:15 pm
bigcarpchaser
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Camberley
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RonP, I think I actually clipped the side of a rut with a big stone Welcome "Lola"
4th Nov 2009 11:10 pm
D3Norway
Member Since: 15 Sep 2009
Location: T
Posts: 96
ronp wrote:
These were my Super7's with 45mm offset
These are my Stormers with 53mm offset
Hope that answers your question.
Actually, I think I'm right in my asumption, with a greater offset the wheel stands further into the wheelsarch. ET=Einpresstifen
so the wheel with ET45mm is actually further ou than the one with ET53mm. Anyway it may look differen due to the construction of the wheel.christian@betekconsult.com
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