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gstuart
 


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Russell wrote:
I still think you need to be able to reset or may be even code the air bag ECU


went through the iid and went to the service section

then onto reset airbag module to service condition which i didn't

light goes out for about 3-4 seconds then will come back on

as 2 x of the codes have gone after replacing the curtain airbags i would then assume they are ok

don't know if it's an airbag fault of wire problem in the loom

shame there isn't a special airbag tester , so i could then plug the airbags in one by one and then know 100% it's ok or isn't
  
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i am so grateful to everyone who is helping me with this

been like banging my head against the wall

really frustrating

think the next port of call will be the clock spring

got an old impact sensor, tested that with a multimeter set on ohms, is an open circuit

so will test all 4 x impact sensors

thought there was only 3 of them, found one in the drivers door

will update this , so it may help others

also giving u guys some peace of me going on Rolling with laughter
  
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Sorry but cannot see the clock spring being the issue as the fault code says right side air bag, the clock spring does the steering wheel air bag only doesnt
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bless u russell for the help

am keeping my sanity, just Rolling with laughter

the only airbag left then will be in the seat

have had that out and looked ok , but no way of testing it

think if i plug in the spare seat airbag can at least eliminate it

is suppose to be a nice day tommorow

thks again Bow down
  
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Would be worth a try if you have a spare. Have you checked all the other air bags to see if they are present and that all the plugs are correctly connected, make sure all the pins are in place and none bent or miss aligned.
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hi russell

thanks

with all the headlining out and panels i've

checked that all impact sensors are present , x4

every air bag is present

have removed the steering wheel airbag when i fitted the cruise control and airbag was all plugged in

but i think that's a great point , of starting again and going through , checking all the pins etc are ok

think it will also be a good idea to remove the impact sensors and check them with a multimeter , as i havent done that yet

sunday , will write out a list of what i will be checking , can then at least process a plan of some elimination

am worried in one sense if there's a break in a wire somewhere

hardest part is not being able to use a multimeter on the airbags to test them, as i know u mustn't do that, as it can trigger the airbag

thks again and looks like i've got a busy day tomorrow, Bow down

ps, when i first found out the faults it had

passenger pretensioner had gone off, , now replaced

drivers side curtain airbags missing , also replaced
  
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first step

clock spring test as it's the easiest


  
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tested all sound

set meter on ohms

then got continuity on both plugs

so now onto the seat airbag

checked connector plug, all the wires look sound and in there terminals

looked at pins also on the clock spring and connectors, no bent pins

only thing i can think of now is the seat airbag , running out of options
  
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With the steering wheel on check for continuing from lock to lock.
  
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gstuart
 


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hi pete

many thks

been reading through the forum and can't find the accurate way to test the clock spring

know when u remove it four pins come down onto the connector

but seeing they do i thought would help me , get the continuity reading

done the test with it out of the landy , made sure i moved it all the way round and was ok

really do appreciate the help with this and many thks

on to the rest if the system
  
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The code says right hand air bags so by my thinking it has to be to do with the air bags and not the clock spring (may be wrong) I also think that there may still be an issue with the old ECU and new air bags not been compatible (ECU needs coding or re-setting perhaps) as it is still seeing the right hand air bags deployed.
There is a sight which will re-set/programme the ECU someone posted a link to it previously, if yo can find that link it may be worth a call to them as they may have some answers.
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hi russell

bless u for the reply

suppose i was clutching at straws abit

have indeed contacted 3 x airbag specialist companies

one told me to check the connectors under the seat and clock spring, but know we are well behind that

if i don't hear back will ring them

alas i think ur right as the code seems to indicate the firing command , if that makes sense

looks as though i will have to remove the ecu box, been trying to avoid it because of where it is fitted and getting the thing out

but wish to finally resolve this issue as i imagine it's not just driving me nuts but me keep posting questions

did try the iid and reset to service condition but alas i imagine. i've got to get the crash cleared

am dreading getting the box out Big Cry
  
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Russell wrote:
The code says right hand air bags so by my thinking it has to be to do with the air bags and not the clock spring (may be wrong) I also think that there may still be an issue with the old ECU and new air bags not been compatible (ECU needs coding or re-setting perhaps) as it is still seeing the right hand air bags deployed.
There is a sight which will re-set/programme the ECU someone posted a link to it previously, if yo can find that link it may be worth a call to them as they may have some answers.


just found this

don't know why it didnt come up before

http://www.myairbags.com/obd-dtc-code/b002...t-control/
  
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gstuart
 


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this was the very first iid fault code that i got

passenger seat belt pretensioner replaced





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Old picture shows all faults, new ECU faults, does this make a difference to faults shown?
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