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Mine fitted too - cracking bit of kit and dead easy to fit - I just added a small sticky pad onto the controller to make sure it sat square and stayed put in the battery box. Only unexpected bit was that pin 2 was already taken so I had to swap it out for the controller's green wire.
Just got to persevere with the FBH now as it won't run for more than a few minutes - on Pete's advice gonna try Forte cleaner next
13th Aug 2011 12:55 pm
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Donny, mine was very reluctant at first but I put that down to the fact that it hadn't been run for months. First time it ran for about 20 seconds, then about 2 mins and 5 mins after that. It did take quite a few goes but it has now run for the full 30 mins. Perhaps a fuel prime would have helped but Pete has not released how to do that via the remote yet...
edit: Pete has revealed:
When you press and hold the off button (about 6-7 seconds) the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously lit then release the off button and press and release the on button.
This will prime the fuel pump for 20 seconds and you should here it ticking.
I also had to release the original red wire from pin 2 - pressing in the little tang whilst pulling on the wire was the trickiest bit of the install. I put the green control wire into some convoluted tubing to protect it from the exhaust heat and ran it above the intake tubing. It also made a handy place to tuck the redundant red wire (complete with some insulating tape over the pin) back down the tubing. I also insulated the end of the antenna wire with some shrink tubing to stop it shorting against anything in the battery box. Finally I tie-wrapped the convoluted tubing to the existing wires feeding the controller plug.
I've highlighted the relevant bits below:
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13th Aug 2011 1:09 pm
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EDIT as it typed wrong
You could try a fuel pump prime sequence it may help.
Fuel pump prime sequence
When you press and hold the off button (about 6-7 seconds) the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously lit then release the off button and press and release the on button.
This will prime the fuel pump for 20 seconds and you should here it ticking if you listen under the drivers side on the carin the centre.
Master/manual fault clear sequence
Press and hold the off button, the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously on (about 6-7 seconds) then release the off button and press and release the on button.
Pete
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13th Aug 2011 1:10 pm
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Thank you for the picture Robbie, may i use this picture ?
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13th Aug 2011 1:13 pm
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Pete, consider it yours.
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Merci
13th Aug 2011 1:15 pm
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Hmmm, tried it again this afternoon and I cannot get it to run for more than a minute or two.
I've watched it go through its ignition sequence a number of times (the unit has 3 attempts without intervention) and just after it gets going at max rate it the flame goes out and starts its cool-down cycle. Before the flame extinguishes everything seems fine with a steady green light on the controller. Shortly after the flame extinguishes the green light starts to flash again and it goes through the full start-up sequence. Once it has had its third go I get a brief flash of orange on the LED before the very slow flash of green when in standby mode.
I've tried a fuel prime too (new pope apparently), but the FBH went through the whole 3 attempts attempt with the same end result. Had a voltmeter on it and the battery is very good, so not an undervolt issue. It's like it is being commanded to shutdown.
So is it the FBH, the car (2005 version that had the original pre-heat option before it was removed), the BAS controller or something I have done?
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Hi
It's nothing you have done, the module is doing what it should do. It can only be an issue on the car/fbh.
As said I have the same thing on my wifes car and after some forte it fired up the nest morning on the 2nd attempt.
When was the last time your fbh run correctly ?
Pete
13th Aug 2011 4:30 pm
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Hi Pete,
I guess the FBH has not run since the end of the winter; given the winter we had it had one heck of a workout and has never failed to light. It does get some diesel treatment at the start of the winter as a precaution against sludge in the FBH, something I did again yesterday in preparation for the install.
After the several attempts this morning it did get going and ran for the full 30 minutes with no issues. I've just gone outside again hit the remote button and the darned thing lit first time. It is most of the way through a full 30 minute run as I type. The FBH is running normally with no smoke and regulates the water temp correctly.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Perfect news it must have just had a wobbler for some reason may be still blowing the cobwebs out from last year.
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13th Aug 2011 5:36 pm
Robbie
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Pete, did you mean for these instructions to be the same sequence?
Quote:
Fuel pump prime sequence
When you press and hold the off button (about 6-7 seconds) the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously lit then release the off button and press and release the on button.
This will prime the fuel pump for 20 seconds and you should here it ticking if you listen under the drivers side on the carin the centre.
Master/manual fault clear sequence
Press and hold the off button, the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously on (about 6-7 seconds) then release the off button and press and release the on button.
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Humm sorry typos, i was at the Stoneleigh show and was typing between jobs.
Fuel pump prime sequence
When you press and hold the off button (about 6-7 seconds) the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously lit then release the off button and press and release the on button.
This will clear any faults and then prime the fuel pump for 20 seconds and you should here it ticking if you listen under the drivers side on the carin the centre.
Master/manual fault clear sequence
Press and hold the off button, the green led will come on and go off, wait until it has come back on and is continuously on (about 6-7 seconds) then release the off button The led will then indicate the number of faults as short flashes or orange in between long orange flashes. If you press the off button during this sequence the controller will go back to the idle state. If you let it time out (ie press nothing) then any faults present will be cleared.
In shorter words. there are three things possible:
1 view number of faults
2 view number of faults and then clear faults
3 view number of faults and then clear faults and then do fuel prime
1= you press and hold the off until green led continuous, view the faults and then press off
2= you press and hold the off until green led continuous, view the faults and let it go back to idle by itself
3= you press and hold the off until green led continuous, view the faults and then press and release the on switch
Pete
14th Aug 2011 9:28 pm
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I hope by now all orders placed have bee delivered.
Pete
19th Aug 2011 7:58 pm
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Hi Pete
have you any of these units left?
19th Aug 2011 8:11 pm
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Hi
Yes i have stock left, please PM or call me for ordering.
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- on Pete's advice gonna try Forte cleaner next
it must have just had a wobbler for some reason may be still blowing the cobwebs out from last year.
