Member Since: 17 Feb 2013
Location: Antwerp
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Hey guys,
I have the detachable tow bar on my Disco 3 and it has loads of play. It scares me as I pull a trailer up to 3500kg almost every day (it's the reason I bought the Disco). I'm looking at buying the Tow Trust TL1.
I understand I can just fit this tow bar in the socket now used by my detachable tow bar?
Thanks.
5th Apr 2013 8:01 pm
richuk
Member Since: 27 May 2012
Location: Dorset
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The primary part of the Tow Trust bar does fit into the same socket. It feels very sturdy straight away. However the kit is supplied with side arms which bolt to the chassis. It is in my opinion very well made and a fit and forget piece of equipment. I would recommend it. Rich
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5th Apr 2013 11:23 pm
B16 KJR
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Quote:
It is in my opinion very well made and a fit and forget piece of equipment. I would recommend it.
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6th Apr 2013 9:32 am
redjelly5000
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RRD I had the same problem, which is why I started this thread and did all the homework on possible solutions. I can assure you after some considerable use of this new bar, it has absolutely solved my problems and continues to be a fantastic piece of kit. I would definitely recommend it, especially if towing up to the limit as I also was doing. (which I think is what expedited the failure of the OE bar in my case).
I'd say go for it with confidence. D3 TDV6 HSE 2008 Buckingham Blue (current)
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When I bought my latest D3 the salesman said they were applying a recall on the detachable LR item hence the number of older cars with new towbars fitted.
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8th Apr 2013 12:41 am
B16 KJR
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When I bought my latest D3 the salesman said they were applying a recall on the detachable LR item hence the number of older cars with new towbars fitted.
That's what I have been told as well
8th Apr 2013 10:27 am
Robbie
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Not seen that recall - anyone have a copy as my bar is 7 years old?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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I have only been told verbally that they are being recalled, nothing in writing yet.
8th Apr 2013 11:14 am
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No recall ...there is an updated TSB on those unable to attach though
Quote:
TECHNICAL BULLETIN
LTB00493v2
27 MAR 2013
Towing System Does Not Latch In The Vehicle Housing
AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Discovery 3 / LR3 (LA)
Model Year:
2005-2009
VIN:
5A000360-9A513325
Discovery 4 / LR4 (LA)
Model Year:
2010-2014
VIN:
AA513326 Onwards
Range Rover Sport (LS)
Model Year:
2005-2013
VIN:
5A900302 Onwards
MARKETS:
All
CONDITION SUMMARY:
Situation:
A customer may report a concern that the towing system will not latch in the vehicle housing correctly.
Cause: Tow bar manufacturing tolerances combined with excessive paint build up on the rear chassis. Although a new tow bar is within tolerance specification, in certain circumstances a new tow bar fitted to either a new or old vehicle may be difficult to install. Following the procedure outlined below will rectify the concern. Suggested Customer Concern Code A98.
Action: Should a customer express concern, follow the Service Instruction outlined below.
DESCRIPTION
SRO
TIME (HOURS)
CONDITION CODE
CAUSAL PART
Remove Excess Paint From Quick Release Tow Bar Bracket
76.11.89/85
0.1hours
42
KVB500101
NOTE: Normal Warranty policies and procedures apply.
SERVICE INSTRUCTION:
EU Detachable Tow Bar
1. NOTE: Please note the towing system shown may vary from market to market but the essential information is the same.
Check the part number on the locking pin and towing system. The affected part numbers are listed below:
1. Towing system Part Number :4H22-17N886-AC.
2. Locking pin number: First 4 digits 3136U up to 3257U.
NAS Tow Bar
2. Check the part number on the locking pin and towing system. The affected part numbers are listed below:
1. Towing system Part Number :AH22-17N886-AB.
2. Locking pin number: First 4 digits 3136U up to 3257U.
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That's the TSB that's been out for a while now. I have been told the removable towbars are being replaced if there is too much play, although it might take some time.
8th Apr 2013 1:06 pm
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No this was issued on March 27th and replaces the older TSB21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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8th Apr 2013 1:58 pm
Robbie
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Thanks DG.
I note that it does not specifically say to replace the tow bar, just implies it with the serial number range (yet to check mine). Mine is a little reluctant to go fully home on my D4 but was fine on my D3, so it could just require the excess paint to be removed.
My other confusion is 'Normal Warranty policies and procedures apply' - my tow bar is not in warranty, but my car is - so what will happen?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Typical that this TSB doesn't cover Aus spec tow bars. Looks like I'm up for buying myself a new one. Mine rattles and the locking pin frequently refuses to lock, or release.
Even though the tow bar itself is different here, I think the release/lock mechanism is common.
8th Apr 2013 2:50 pm
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I think that is a standard statement they make at that point in all TSB's ...rarely there will be a different instruction in it's place 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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8th Apr 2013 2:50 pm
vinnie
Member Since: 22 Jul 2011
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Wish i coould say i've got a loose tow ball. When i bought the Disco 2 years ago it came with a detachable fitted but with no key. Anyway, usual method used to release the lever but me can i remove the bloody thing
It wobbles a tiny bit but will not detach. I know the lever works because i can see the securing lever go inside and therefore it should release.
Any ideas anyone??He doesn't ask for much........But gives a lot.
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me can i remove the bloody thing 
