Member Since: 06 May 2015
Location: Northants
Posts: 482
Thanks again for a great write up. Did my yesterday in pouring rain. Disco 3 HSE (55) - gone
BMW x3 (62) x30d MSport - current
25th Mar 2016 7:29 pm
Sit
Member Since: 26 Mar 2016
Location: Somerset
Posts: 66
Great little how-to!
Si
29th Mar 2016 7:27 pm
ClassikFan
Member Since: 02 Nov 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1049
Good to read this before attempting to do my first D3 oil change. Unfortunately the pic on page one showing filter removal tool is now missing. Also anyone got any pics showing the correct placement of the oil seals on filter and housing please?
9th Feb 2017 10:34 pm
Disgoeshere
Member Since: 06 Dec 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 278
Not a very good one taken from Hayne's but should do
Andy
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10th Feb 2017 2:57 pm
rogc
Member Since: 02 Sep 2015
Location: Kent
Posts: 64
Homemade filter removal tool, not pretty but it works just fine
11th Feb 2017 2:09 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10770
I found you don't need a special tool.
Put one finger in the middle of the oil filter and pull it out slightly.
This allows you to get a flat blade screw driver around the outside to leaver the filter out.
11th Feb 2017 2:45 pm
jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
Posts: 769
Great write up. In the end I placed the nippel of the old filter in the vice and pulled the housing off. Didn't like the idea of a screwdriver lever onto the plastic housing that now 13 years old and brittle.....
The 5w 30 oil that came out was as thin a water....I didn't like that either. That's a petrol engine grade oil ffs. So after flushing it twice with new oil I'm now running 10w 40 mobile 1 fully synthetic oil. The same stuff we use at work on our variable vane
vane turbo diesel trucks. It has improved the oil pressure a few psi and stopped the oil light delay turn off when first started in the morning. My engine has done 130k now so undoubtedly well run in lol. That initial rattle on startup has also improved.I will be replacing timing belts and oil pump in the winter and will recheck oil pressure then.
9th Jul 2017 6:46 am
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
Posts: 1482
Hi jenseneverest,
So you are using 10/40, this has got me thinking, maybe 5/30 IS too thin and this is why we are seeing engine problems, perhaps it is recomended because it contrbutes to slightly better fuel economy not so the engine will last 300,000 miles.
This engine is used in other manufactures vehicles, what oil spec' do they recommend.
Is there actually much difference between a 10w and a 5w.
Andi.
14th Jul 2017 6:29 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10770
Citroen do suggest a different grade iirc (on non dpf cars).
I think it's semi though.
No not "much" difference. 1 step.
More interested what the Africa guys use 5w40 ? ?
14th Jul 2017 7:05 pm
jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
Posts: 769
Hi mate, my understanding of engine oil is limited. I am no expert. The quality of oils have come a long way in the past decade or so. I always buy expensive well known brands and change regular for better engine life, i change mine twice every year or sooner if millage warrants it.( i dont do a lot) Diesel engine oil will always get contaminated with diesel due to the combustion/lubrication of the engine and that makes it even thinner and less able to lubricate. I am also of the opinion that if an oil is cheap, it is cheap for a reason. The numbers determine its viscosity, see here:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a53/1266801/
IMHO the upper 30w limit as recommended is not high enough, i also dont think it gets cold enough to warrant the 5w lower limit, that and the fact the engine has now done over 130 thou miles led me to the change of grade. It would appear that in other countries there is "high millage" engine oils available. I would expect my disco to go on to well over 200k, time will tell.
14th Jul 2017 7:32 pm
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
Posts: 1482
Hand book says 5/30 only, no change of viscosity dependent on temperature.(Africa). Mayby their handbook says different.
Wonder if 10/40 would be better for a high milage vehicle ?
Andi.
14th Jul 2017 8:50 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10770
I think their handbook is the same, but they have had so many bottom end failures out their they have taken matters into their own hands
14th Jul 2017 9:10 pm
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
Posts: 1482
Just like the 2T debate, nobody REALLY knows.
Trouble is, "experts" will step back from recommending anything not in the handbook, for fear of litigation.
As ever, we only hear the bad news, wonder how many engines make 300,000 and beyond, that we never hear about..
I am now seriousy wondering about 10/40 as the miles rack up.
Andi.[/u]
15th Jul 2017 8:34 am
jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
Posts: 769
Exactly, and to be safe everyone follows the recommended stuff by LR....it is just a recommendation mind.
The mobile 1 stuff i am running is good enough for a ferrari it will be fine in my old landy imho
15th Jul 2017 9:02 am
garrycol
Member Since: 06 Dec 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1130
Put the incorrect specified oil in the engine and run the risk of spun bearings and broken cranks.
Change from 5W30 at your peril - the pointers towards failures seem to be oil related - either the incorrect spec oil or poor maintenance and not doing oil changes.
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