Member Since: 02 Nov 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1046
whether we believe Christians advice on 5w-40 or not I thinks they are two valid points made in the video to extend theirs of our engines.
1. Let the engine warm up before ' giving it the beans'
&
2. Don't utilise max torque from low revs. Let the revs rise above 1500 on a gentle throttle before flooring it. Give the engine a chance to get oil pressure up before summoning the full 600nm it's capable of.Just 'cause you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.
8th Feb 2023 11:17 pm
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1200
Re the above, never understood why manufacturers suggest you can fire up from cold and go, they say so for trucks as well, but when you consider the size of the engine plus ancillary equipment, I and many I know, kept to the old school thought.
Treat it like a good woman, look after it, and it will look after you.
Athletes warm up and down after a race or game, why should a similar machine not be treated the same.
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
9th Feb 2023 9:43 am
jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
Posts: 769
its all the emission's crap bolted to modern diesels that don't like to be driven like miss daisy.
9th Feb 2023 10:50 am
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1200
That may be true, but what we're talking about, is on start up from cold.
Some of the best trucks I have driven or owned, had been really pushed hard in their early life, those that had been molly coddled lacked any grunt, used oil between services and were less fuel efficient.
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
9th Feb 2023 11:06 am
jenseneverest
Member Since: 12 Jun 2017
Location: somewhere
Posts: 769
I agree with it being cold
I'm still in the habit of letting it idle for a few minutes before i set off, and don't boot it until the heating blows warm. I also let it idle for a minute or so before turning it off, but this is just habit from other older motors, some of which had turbo timers fitted. (think they are technically illegal now)
9th Feb 2023 12:31 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14089
Ditto with regards to allowing the engine to warm up and idle on my first turbo’d engines , luckily my pops taught me how to service and repair my first motor ( triumph herald )
Then it progressed onto basic welding on some of my first series landies, lol, along with of course repairs after driving off road , plus putting a notice “ plse pass running in engine “
Sorry I’m waffling as per usual
9th Feb 2023 1:47 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13494
And yet here we are with the roads full of modern cars that don't have this care given to them and all still running along nicely.
Times change.
(I should add that I still check the tyre pressures (increasing them if we're going to be running fully loaded, letting them back down when running normally), coolant, oil level, etc., before a longer journey. Just like my Dad did back in the day. )Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
9th Feb 2023 2:36 pm
HairyFool
Member Since: 04 Jan 2023
Location: North Essex
Posts: 651
Finally found time to sit down and watch all of the video last night. All the factual stuff made complete sense so no problem there.
The opinion stuff is exactly that, an opinion. Could be argued for or against.A visitor from the dark side, my other vehicle is an is still an EV. Strictly speaking its SWMBO.
9th Feb 2023 4:59 pm
tanters
Member Since: 24 Oct 2007
Location: Oireland
Posts: 4287
Somehow I'd think it would be hard to win any arguement with Christian ....fairly sure of himself A happy childhood ... is the worst possible preparation for life.
9th Feb 2023 5:02 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 14089
Indeed @ RRSTDV8 , to think 100,000 miles is nothing these days , use to have a caravan holiday every year down to Dorset , my pops always checked the Old Ford consul
However regardless it would still overheat going over the hogs back
9th Feb 2023 5:04 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
tanters wrote:
Somehow I'd think it would be hard to win any arguement with Christian ....fairly sure of himself
And in case someone feels still feels the urge to do so and has contrary knowledge he has the “safety” of a youtube channel, quite a “one way traffic” medium. Debates are literally a sideline exercise on such a channel Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
9th Feb 2023 6:27 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20830
I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
10th Feb 2023 8:56 am
Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
Posts: 280
I have never thrashed a cold engine until it's been well up to working temperature.
I've always let turbo engines idle for a couple of minutes after hard driving before shutting down.
I used to drive HGV's for a well known supermarket who were very "penny wise/pound foolish" (the fact that they continued to buy DAF's was a good indication of that).
I did the same with their vehicles & was always being told off by the deskbound "driver trainers" for doing so because the vehicle telematics picked up "excessive idling".
They also insisted on accelerating/braking gently & never exceeding 2,000rpm (they also inhibited driver override on the auto gearboxes.
The guys in the workshop told me that they suffered from above average turbo failures & issues with engine management as well as brake pad/disc glazing. They also were of the opinion that drivetrains suffered due to engines being laboured.
Another company I worked for universally thrashed their trucks & apart from the six-weekly inspections & routine servicing rarely saw the inside of a workshop (then again, they were all Mercs & Scanias).
Trucks especially are designed to work hard.
Sorry to have gone a little off-topic.
12th Feb 2023 12:12 pm
Disco_Mikey
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