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Location: kent
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Ford lion engine (Christian and Vera)
Alas most of this went over my head
5th Feb 2023 9:24 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14338
Vera and Christian produce great content.
I'll watch it later. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
5th Feb 2023 9:30 am
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10663
It’s a shame he is getting big headed.
Would have been better if he had compared two v6 engines.
5th Feb 2023 10:30 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20830
Christian and Vera need to stop these BS videos
A lot of it is "in their opinion" after a few minutes research on Google.
Prime example is their recommendation of 5W40. Based on an oil pressure test after an oil change with 5W40. If they had changed it with 5W30, they would have seen an increase in pressure too
But they are happy to ignore thousands of hours and millions of pounds of lab testing, and people just lap it up My D3 Build Thread
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Shamrock
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5th Feb 2023 2:17 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
Disco_Mikey wrote:
Christian and Vera need to stop these BS videos
A lot of it is "in their opinion" after a few minutes research on Google.
But they are happy to ignore thousands of hours and millions of pounds of lab testing, and people just lap it up
+1
People find is easyer to trust the “mailman” with passion regarding their vehicles than real specialist who work on and in them on a daily basis… because there is tendency to believe that professionals only lie and amateurs not…. I tend to believe that professionals (at least most of them) do also work with passion, back-upped with knowledge, training and a lot off experience .
But indeed, if you post it on social media, a lot of people want to believe it… parrots 🦜Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
5th Feb 2023 2:23 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20830
Shamrock wrote:
Disco_Mikey wrote:
But they are happy to ignore thousands of hours and millions of pounds of lab testing
Lab tests dating back to the origin of the TDV6, around 2004, which were mainly aimed at emissions constraints, which were becoming increasingly crazy to the obvious detriment of reliability.
And yet, no update when lubrication technologies progressed, nor when the DPF was added !
I don't understand how anyone can deny this simple truth.
We look after quite a few high mile (300k+) 2.7 and 3.0 Disco/RRS, all have been run on good quality 5W30 (as JLR requires)
Lubrication technology has moved on, as the 2.7 required 5W30 A1, now it requires A5 spec oil
Of ALL of the engine failures we've had, only 1 has been serviced by us within the past 12 months (but the first time that came into us was with 170k miles on it with an unknown history)
Moreover, from a legal/business point of view, if I serviced your car, and stated I'd filled with 5W40, and you subsequently has an engine failure, where would I stand? I've filled your engine with the incorrect grade of oil...My D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 575
Shamrock wrote:
... how anyone can deny this simple truth.
That phrase is classic internet clickbait - and usually is rumour/opinion based.
Here's a fact, When I worked at a a LR dealers, we had plenty of HA D4's in for service (20+), all of them made it past 1/3 of a million miles with no engine issues or failures, going on to be sold off at 350,000+ miles. They were all serviced within schedule and with the specified lubricants. That, is a fact.
5th Feb 2023 3:35 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14338
I'm not an engineer, but ignoring the 5w40 debate, his thoughts on the bearing loads and lubrication seem sound to me.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
5th Feb 2023 4:54 pm
Pimpintgepidge
Member Since: 17 Sep 2019
Location: Glossop
Posts: 131
I enjoy the videos. Let’s be honest the internet is full of useless information but I use the information I want to use and tbh his knowledge is far superior than mine. Fair play to them I say..2015 D4 HSE Loire Blue
5th Feb 2023 7:55 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1820
Only 2 years ago they started making youtube videos about D3 cupholder hacks, lift hight hacks, etc…
The common stuff you can read here in this forum. As a lot of their subjects…. Are Common discussed subjects and “issues” here in this (and maybe other) forums. Now some think they are specialists… 2 years later… because they have a channel on youtube.. and do some “testing”
Maybe they are, i do not know them personally, but at least, the subjects here on this forum are openly discussed and regularly answered/tributed by well known LR/LR indie professionals with proven track records..Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
5th Feb 2023 9:02 pm
Flatlander
Member Since: 20 Jul 2015
Location: Here
Posts: 575
@motolab
This guy claims to work in 'the automotive industry' - anyone know in what capacity? I know plenty that work in that industry, very few would know how to identify weaknesses in crankshaft design (but be excellent in their own field), it's a bit like those we get claiming to know better than the software designers of their cars PDC system 'because they work at Rolls Royce Aero' counting bolts all day....
5th Feb 2023 9:08 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20830
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Big difference between someone who makes a living repairing these, and someone who makes a living with a Facetube channel, making controversial videos My D3 Build Thread
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