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Rather than follow trends LR should make new ones. Given that the plastic bits do look tacky from the material used point of view, why not solve the problem of wax build up by using a different material. How about smooth teflon frinstance. Wouldnt scratch so easily, non-solicited hitch-hiking pedestrians and other detritus can be easily cleaned away, can be made in any colour you like, even none at all (transparent). In fact make the entire body out of recycled aluminium nonstick frying pans. Would never need to clean it again, just wait for the rain . Detailers might be upset though
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Teflon (PTFE) is use on a lot of fasteners either as straight coating or a toque modifing lubricant.
We did some PTFE coated wheels for Land Rover Special vehicles a few years back, but the main production never took it up. the basic problem although the coating is very tough, is at best it is a semi gloss.
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The wheel above (forget the caliper) was over coated in clear lacquer, but with the paint containing PTFE it failed the cross hatch test.
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10th Mar 2008 1:19 pm
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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That wheel looked like a good idea - but what's the cross hatch test?
(excuse my ignorance) I assume it's something to do with scratching - not an irate five door family saloon!
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10th Mar 2008 2:36 pm
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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Simply put score it and see what happens its all about adhesion
10th Mar 2008 3:38 pm
Cactus
Member Since: 09 Mar 2008
Location: Aquitaine
Posts: 33
Hello,
Heard from a dealer that what has been showed at Geneva is to be on market from May-June 2008 and will last until MY09 ends (around sep. '09). This to make the D3 sales more "dynamic". No 3.0 L engine forecasted for this "cosmetic" change.
Then, this is msot interesting as new D3 will be launched sligthly after mid '09 with 225 / 245 bhp new 3.0 V6 engine and wheels from 19" to 20" (HSE) with new less "utilitarian" body frame (similar to the one seen on the BBC website). There will be new interior design, closer to what the current RR has (incl. rear camera, park assist, ...) with a new Terrain response (6 positions) and the new ZF 7-speed automatic gearbox. It will also be lower than the current 1m90+ D3 and will also loose weight (around 200 kg less).
I've been also told we could see some hybrid (diesel + electric) from early 2010. The new 3.0 l engine will be Euro VI compliant, with less contamination the the current 2.7 l.
Sounds great.
10th Mar 2008 5:28 pm
Kipper
Member Since: 24 Dec 2007
Location: Somerset
Posts: 14
Cactus' dealer info...
Anybody heard anything similar to what Cactus heard from any other sources - in particular that this is a 'cosmetic' update and a major update (3 litre engine & higher spec' interiors) due mid 2009.
I'm replacing in Jan 2009 so would be dissapointed to miss on on any genuine improvements
10th Mar 2008 6:16 pm
Ollram
Member Since: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Gortynia
Posts: 608
Cactus wrote:
I've been also told we could see some hybrid (diesel + electric) from early 2010. The new 3.0 l engine will be Euro VI compliant, with less contamination the the current 2.7 lSounds great.
Indeed!!! that's what i would wait for......
10th Mar 2008 6:36 pm
max099
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Vienna
Posts: 61
Hey cactus, that sounds great (the engine, not the body changes) ... any idea when it will be possible to order it? If they change the engine in mid 09 it should be possible to order it starting with 2009, right?
10th Mar 2008 10:39 pm
LHD
Member Since: 05 Apr 2006
Location: Lugano area
Posts: 689
interestingly, SWIMBO wanted colour-coded mirrors and wheel-arches when we ordered ours. Having attacked various items of innocent road furniture with the arches, she should be happy that they came in plastic colour
Member Since: 30 May 2006
Location: Fife, Scotland
Posts: 292
I'll be looking at our new one tomorrow when I drop into the dealers. If it has the new bumpers, I might just keep the Freelander 2 they're giving me as a loan car whilst they MOT our Disco II.Renny Thomson
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12th Mar 2008 6:37 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Renny, the new stylee ones will be in showroom's next year or late this year.
If you do get a new stylee one, post some pics for us as the LR Media website has gone all shy and wont let you see any high res pics anymore unless your a press hack.
I might just keep the Freelander 2 they're giving me as a loan car
Yeah right...
When's the key swap day Renny???The older I get, the more I realise that people confuse wrinkles for wisdom
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12th Mar 2008 8:14 pm
Renny
Member Since: 30 May 2006
Location: Fife, Scotland
Posts: 292
JMC wrote:
Renny wrote:
I might just keep the Freelander 2 they're giving me as a loan car
Yeah right...
When's the key swap day Renny???
Supposed to be tomorrow, but the Edinburgh DVLA office has been sitting on the cherished transfer for over a week . Call me cynical, but I wonder if they are suddenly going to clear the backlog now the VED rate has increased?
Decided to take the old one in for an MOT tomorrow (current MOT runs out at midnight tomorrow) at my friendly MOT tester in Kirkcaldy and avoid a trip over to Stirling late afternoon, it will mean not getting a Freelander for the weekend. However, if I have any problems I might just dump the old one at Stirling at tea-time. If I do go to the dealers, I'll take the camera.
We were going to pay you a surprise visit over the weekend with the new motor, but I've got a place on a Level 2 Powerboat course this weekend Going to have to fit the towbar sooner as I've been invited down to Silverstone to Scrutineer at the GP.Renny Thomson
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12th Mar 2008 8:45 pm
max099
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Vienna
Posts: 61
awheel wrote:
And there's more.....for all of you who want to retain the black unpainted arches, they will fit the new bumpers. The interfaces are unchanged. Lowline spec cars and the Commercial derivatives will stay with the black colour split as it currently is....
Back to my first point - we have listened to customers and reacted in a way that gives you choice. Stateside customers want body colour everywhere. Russian customers hate it...they want ruggedness!!!
Hmm... why don't you guys at LR just add an option to the price list letting the customer decide whether they want the original black arches/bumpers or the new painted thing? You say you still offer the black ones on lowline and/or commercials - so why not give HSE & Co clients a choice?
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. Detailers might be upset though 
. Call me cynical, but I wonder if they are suddenly going to clear the backlog now the VED rate has increased?
Going to have to fit the towbar sooner as I've been invited down to Silverstone to Scrutineer at the GP.
