Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
To be fair I usually do 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
6th Dec 2019 10:07 am
al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10352
to those who think the D5 is something of a big DS - you dont know what you are missing.
After nearly a year with my D5 (after having every other discos since 1992) I am very happy with it. OK, I was also an early detractor, especially about its end, but it does everything the D4 did with much more refinement - I'll stick with mine thanks
AlVolvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
6th Dec 2019 11:56 am
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Absolutely, when I get I DS loaner it really feels downmarket.
6th Dec 2019 12:00 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
My earlier point was that the D5 and DS share the current design DNA, just as the FL2 did with the D3/4.
Many of us will have driven both FL2 and D3/4, as well as D5 and DS.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Dec 2019 12:03 pm
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
Posts: 3079
LT wrote:
To answer the above question, I replaced my 6th consecutive Discovery with an L405 FFRR and I’m happy to point out the negatives as well as positives in doing so.
This is a forum for D3/4, so of course posters will have strong opinions on other vehicles, particularly other LR models. It would be odd if they didn’t. 👍
This is my current plan for when I change. If I'm going to be forced to have something with the design slider pushed further towards 'posh-roader', and be facing prices in the next bracket up from when I bought my D4, I think "Why not do it properly" - get a FFRR D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
6th Dec 2019 12:13 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
I like the big Range and had a hankering for one, but, they’re just a bit too posh for me. The Velar is too posh for me really.
They are Savile Row, whereas I’m more Skid Row
The Defenders been on the list for years but just couldn’t justify having too vehicles and I couldn’t live with a Defender as a daily driver. The new one has changed all that it’s got a proper Land Rover feel about it, takes me back to getting my first D3 and I’m counting down the days until October 2020
Can’t see me going back to Disco ownership.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
6th Dec 2019 12:44 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
I wanted the both massage seats and sliding roof, so it had to be an Autobiography. IMO, it’s too much money new, approx £108k list price for my SDV8, but at 2.5 years old with 20,500 on the clock and a price of £52k it makes more sense.
It’s not a D4 though, but then nothing is inc. the D5. So as I was going to have to compromise anyway, I prioritised my most important factors in order and the FFRR ticked the first 6 boxes.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Dec 2019 1:01 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
J77 wrote:
I like the big Range and had a hankering for one, but, they’re just a bit too posh for me. The Velar is too posh for me really.
They are Savile Row, whereas I’m more Skid Row
The Defenders been on the list for years but just couldn’t justify having too vehicles and I couldn’t live with a Defender as a daily driver. The new one has changed all that it’s got a proper Land Rover feel about it, takes me back to getting my first D3 and I’m counting down the days until October 2020
Can’t see me going back to Disco ownership.
I’m not sure the FFRR is really any “posher” than the Velar. The boot of mine is currently full of builders waste/rumble. A hatchbag and flexible rubber mat and it’s ready to work.
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Dec 2019 1:30 pm
Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
al cope wrote:
to those who think the D5 is something of a big DS - you dont know what you are missing.
After nearly a year with my D5 (after having every other discos since 1992) I am very happy with it. OK, I was also an early detractor, especially about its end, but it does everything the D4 did with much more refinement - I'll stick with mine thanks
Al
Very well said and I would agreeMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
6th Dec 2019 1:39 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
LT wrote:
approx £108k list price for my SDV8, but at 2.5 years old with 20,500 on the clock and a price of £52k it makes more sense.
Yikes, someone took a big kick in the wallet there, didn't they? It's a lot of vehicle for the money at £52k, but a lot of money for the vehicle at £108k...Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
6th Dec 2019 1:59 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
I agree
As wonderful as it is, it’s not £108k wonderful. Imo anyway. Presumably the first owner didn’t pay full list, but even so.
Saying that it’s not hard to spec the new Defender to over £80k and I expect the D5 is similar, although I’ve never looked. So it’s all relative I guess.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Dec 2019 2:14 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
The L494 RRS is as bad, pricewise, as the FFRR these days. A new one for £80k-£100k? Er, no way. As good as the new ones are (and they really are good), that's silly money.
Both of my L320 RRS cost me in the £20-30k region, bought second hand in each case. At that money they're great, nothing comes close for the blend of on- and off-road ability, comfort, etc. When the L494 drops to that price, I'll probably get one, although I do have a L405 itch to scratch at some point too.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
6th Dec 2019 3:08 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
There’s a significant difference/driving experience between the current FFRR and RRS. The later being far more sporty in all ways and the former a much calmer, quieter and generally more soothing and cosseting experience.
What makes a massive difference on the current FFRR is having the Dynamic Response system, which isn’t available with all the engines. It really does transform the handling.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
6th Dec 2019 3:28 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
LT wrote:
DG-My point exactly. Why give a about what others think.
I’m sure you’d not want to stifle the opinions of others, good or bad, though.
Ah but that is the thing, most people nowadays care a great deal what others think of them, if the did not they would buy a Dacia Duster.
Before you say it a Dacia will do pretty much what most discsos (all ages) are used for, people go on about we need one for the van, you do not really need a caravan, you want a caravan.
Need 4x4? pay anohter couple of k and get the 4x4 version.
I do agree ref people should be allowed their opinions whether others like them or not, if people do not like them simply do not read them, it is the one thing I do not get about social media, people getting all upset at others opinions?
Move on, leave the forum/web/facebook etc, there are pleny of other like minded people elsewhere.
6th Dec 2019 4:10 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
Yeah, plenty of love for the D5 on the D5 forum. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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end, but it does everything the D4 did with much more refinement - I'll stick with mine thanks 
It's a lot of vehicle for the money at £52k, but a lot of money for the vehicle at £108k...
