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pjm-84
 


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The market will dictate a price.

Worth having a look at CarGurus. (Stock hanging around and significant price drops)
  
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DG
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Quote:
What's the solution?


Get real ? Confused Wink
  
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Just driven from Buckingham to Manchester, M40, M6 Toll, M6.

Frankly, I saw more D5’s than 4 or 3’s put together? Where on earth are you getting your information that they are not selling and that the Land Rover world is going to implode anytime now? There’s loads of them!

There was transporter after transporter convoying south, full of 5’s and Velars.
  
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Bello, where are you getting your "facts" from?
  
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When I drove up the M40 to the Ice Fest I did notice a fair few D5s on transporters. At least I think they were D5s, they covered up. I must admit, I didn't think they were that ugly. Laughing Laughing
   
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There is something to be said about 2nd hand values, even though I know you have just ordered a new one.

Just for curiosity and as at a loose end I just looked on autotrader. Used and nearly new D5's - 410 for sale. (Model been out about 10 months). Porsche Macan (my wife's drive)- 309 for sale used and nearly new. But the Macan has been out for nearly 4 years......

I guess you can argue that the D5 has a larger market aspiration, but realistically it is now competing with the Porsche, BMW, Audi, Volvo segment.

So then I looked at new shape Volvo XC90 using 2016 as a proxy. 280 for sale.
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Hi Gareth,
If you're seeing more and more D5's in the UK i'm glad. Thumbs Up
Believe me or not, i've only seen one here in France, so far,as i drove up to Belgium...which is really strange being used to see quite a lot of D3 and 4's.

@Jimbg,
Whenever i get a chance, i go to Land Rover dealers wherever i am. And we talk freely. I guess it's the same there. It's UNANIMOUS: D5's are not selling well here and customers are not impressed with it's looks.
Jimbg, you seem to be on this forum all they long ready to jump to the throat of whoever says something you disagree on the D5...man, enjoy your car and relax.

Once again, to back what i'm saying: 31 Discoverys for sale, only one is a D4, thirty are D5's.
Am i missing something?
https://approved.landrover.fr/fr/recherche...;district=
  
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I see them all the time, I can’t say that I see more of them than D4s but I go to Gloucestershire a lot and I drive daily around Sussex, Surrey and Hampshire and they aren’t a novelty so maybe it’s a conspiracy LR are having to give them away or pay people to drive about in them Thud
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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Land Rover
Discovery European sales
2016 12.939
2015 12.317
2014 11.239
2013 10.325
2012 12.386
2011 12.120
2010 12.973
2009 10.018
2008 11.923
2007 17.816
2006 19.799
2005 23.125
2004 16.485
2003 16.864
2002 17.906
2001 19.776
2000 18.899
1999 22.548
1998 18.849
1997 27.487

Seems overall Disco sales have been in decline in Europe for sometime
 D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!

Now demoted to a VW 
 
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More and more manufacturers launching suv vehicles ever since the original Disco success.
  
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Leaped - that’s a heck of an achievement in 2016, considering it was being phased out and nothing was built from September - I know, I tried to another unit to the 2016 figure, but there was nothing to buy!
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2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
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2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
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Don't forget in your spots of them around the M40 Warwickshire section and around Coventry that you will be seeing a lot of JLR management cars, not customers.
 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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DG
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stick wrote:

Just for curiosity and as at a loose end I just looked on autotrader. Used and nearly new D5's - 410 for sale. (Model been out about 10 months). .


If you drill down further though it appears that a 1/3 of D5's are listed as 'New' dealer stock with less than 500 miles on the clock ...that's not the same ratio for the other models you mention
  
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Have no idea how you managed to work that out, but well done! Only trouble is that one could interpret it two ways, I think my interpretation would be that the LR dealers have pre-registered stock to meet their numbers and now need to get rid...
 d4 HSE  
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It's easy if you select the mileage and then read the words "New car" Wink

Dealers always have had a stock floating around the country ....it's part and parcel of the motor trade ...they can then ship a motor to someone not requiring a factory build within days rather than 12 weeks
  
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