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DG
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Naks wrote:
. One of the chaps on the local forum guesstimated it to be closer to 15% Shocked


Is he suggesting that there are 30,000 D4's with crank failure ? Confused
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DG wrote:
Sinci1 wrote:
OK so think about it like this. I've had 3157 views of my post and I am assuming they are all LR drivers. Given that the stats say 'only' 1.3% of these engines suffer from this issue that is approx. 41 people in this situation with an insurmountable repair bill. That makes you think doesn't it.


I'll set up a poll and we can see how many site users have experienced the issue Thumbs Up
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I think I have enough people with me if I need them, I will now concentrate on the fact that this should NEVER happen on a lr maintained car of this age and mileage. Thanks all for the information it is much appreciated. And for all those with engine failure who are fighting to get this sorted, I wish you all good luck. I will come back and post when I get this sorted
  
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Good luck, I hope it all works out Thumbs Up
   
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I've had enough, I've just taken out a mechanical warranty with Warranty Direct

If the nightmare happens now, at least I've got some redress, before, sweet FA

Hopefully all get sorted on this Thumbs Up
  
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Sinci1 wrote:
I think I have enough people with me if I need them, I will now concentrate on the fact that this should NEVER happen on a lr maintained car of this age and mileage. Thanks all for the information it is much appreciated. And for all those with engine failure who are fighting to get this sorted, I wish you all good luck. I will come back and post when I get this sorted


Good luck , please keep us informed unless you get a deal with NDA to sign of course , you have a good case lets hope lr spend some of that ewok cash on the deserving Thumbs Up
  
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DG wrote:
Naks wrote:
. One of the chaps on the local forum guesstimated it to be closer to 15% Shocked


Is he suggesting that there are 30,000 D4's with crank failure ? Confused




Err, I don't LRSA have sold that many D4s in ZA.


I may have posted this before, but here goes


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I would say that under the sale of goods act the failing crank is not fit for purpose.

I have suggested before you should take this up with watchdog, it appears that there are many others in the same boat.

The more people who post publicly about their failures then the more ammo you will have.

So for me even whilst you are gathering data of actual cases I would start the legal ball rolling.

As a concerned D4 owner I have a vested interest as do many others. Good luck Sinci1
  
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DG wrote:
Naks wrote:
. One of the chaps on the local forum guesstimated it to be closer to 15% Shocked


Is he suggesting that there are 30,000 D4's with crank failure ? Confused


LR sold 200000 D4s in SA ? Thats a big recall bill then if that's where it ends up , however 200000x£16k is worse , I wonder what the cost for new crank forged in a diff manner and fitted would be x 200000 Rolling Eyes
  
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Let's bear in mind that LR USA recalled all the 4.0 V6 engines as there was a "possibility" of a bottom end failure... Whistle

New engines all round, regardless of if there was an issue or not. Not dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
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USA - litigation centre of the universe
  
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Was the D4 ever offered with the T/SDV6 in America?

Looking at the Approved Used section from LR America, they only seem to have been offered with the 5.0 NA V8 or Supercharged V6. I know the Americans are not huge fans of diesels, but it does make you wonder...
363 Approved used online, and not one of them is a diesel


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Does the TDV8 in the RR suffer the same crank failures?
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firthy77 wrote:
I would say that under the sale of goods act the failing crank is not fit for purpose.

I have suggested before you should take this up with watchdog, it appears that there are many others in the same boat.

The more people who post publicly about their failures then the more ammo you will have.

So for me even whilst you are gathering data of actual cases I would start the legal ball rolling.

As a concerned D4 owner I have a vested interest as do many others. Good luck Sinci1
Thank you. I have sent a letter to Stratstone asking them to repair the vehicle under the sale of goods act, I haven't had a response yet, but they have 7 days to respond and not quite up yet. I am building the case with the solicitor in parallel in case I need to resort to that . I am still really hoping that Stratstone will do the right thing given their status in the market and the fact that they claim customer service is central to everything they do, now is the time to prove it. I will go to watchdog if I have to, a number of people have contacted me who are in the same position and of the same mindset.  
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dlgis wrote:
Does the TDV8 in the RR suffer the same crank failures?


No, but they seem to eat turbos at 80k miles...
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