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SGH wrote:
You would have to be out of your mind to buy a new model LR at launch.
You'll only be paying to do the testing that they never bothered to do.
Why the car will be running on the same gear as other models and the same chassis and a lot of these are already on the road and have done most of the testing. As for the items that are not already used, LR will have done a lot of testing and if there are issues the cars are under warranty and the issues will be fixed.
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6th Aug 2015 5:43 pm
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Conversation went backwards and forwards for a few minutes and having said that I wold probably prefer an outgoing D4 to its replacement, he intimated that the D4 replacement will be along next year and will be heavily influenced by the DS.Front Runner Rack, OEM Ladder & RAI, Tuff-Trek Foxwing, B'rakhah Ingonyama Expedition Trailer, RLD's Spare Wheel Protector, Bodsy's Bars, Empty Pockets! Member of Gloucestershire & Worcestershire 4x4 Response.
27th Aug 2015 1:30 pm
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Sounds as if things aren't going to be too far removed from this old feature.
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27th Aug 2015 1:52 pm
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If you go off that its likely to be a DC100 type vehicle but more luxurious.
IMO i think its going to just be a fattened DS with price to match. JLR are all into the pricing bandwagon of being just a bit more than competitors to not scare sheep off but to still make extra money for doing nothing but changing some bits and bobs.
I actually think they have a squisher machine at the factory and all the cars start as 405's and jsut get squashed down Its like their design team have gone 'err were making a killing on those 405's so lets just make smaller versions and reduce the price by the same amount even if it costs us £10k to make it...
The days of an almost utilitarian bigger LR are over now unless you go for the defender replacement.
now dont get me wrong, they are all probably quite capable off road but then the price of the bits that will get scuffed and scratched off road will be horrendous and be mostly plastic or thin metalwork as well FFRR Owner, very nearly became a D3 owner
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27th Aug 2015 3:27 pm
ronp
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kp wrote:
If you go off that its likely to be a DC100 type vehicle but more luxurious.
I was thinking the D5 would be more 'top centre' on that list.
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27th Aug 2015 3:31 pm
fat bloke
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Sloped back so won't get 3 piece suite in back with ease o dear if space is compromised lets hope they make up with the rest of it and is a market leader for range with " wow" factor which will keep it at top of it's game like it's D3/D4 have for last 11 years....
27th Aug 2015 6:48 pm
crews control
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Have we gone off the idea that it might be based on the Vision concept?
These could be running around under RRS mules and we wouldn't have a clue!
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It is and they areMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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27th Aug 2015 8:02 pm
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crews control wrote:
Have we gone off the idea that it might be based on the Vision concept?
These could be running around under RRS mules and we wouldn't have a clue!
If they are they are very well hidden ...all other models, new DS, FFRR, Evoque, RRS, F-PACE have been out testing with their own cammo'd bodies at least 12-18 months before release. If I'm wrong then even then they can't hide under another shell for real world testing beyond chassis only for long. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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27th Aug 2015 8:22 pm
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Late to this and haven't read the whole thing,but was in the dealers today and he said finished model to be shown to the public late 2016,with deliveries to start early to mid-2017...
He also said they have only just identified a potential site for the factory for the "New Defender" so goodness knows when that's due...
Only what my dealer reckoned..."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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27th Aug 2015 8:23 pm
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Saw a cammoed F-type heading for Calais today, wonder if it's the new secret facelifted version.
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Its like their design team have gone 'err were making a killing on those 405's so lets just make smaller versions and reduce the price by the same amount even if it costs us £10k to make it... 
