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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
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10forcash - re-stating Martin's feedback - we really need the ability to stay "up" at up to 80kph - why are you adding only abother 10mph to the plug-in module?
cheers,
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier  ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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 10th Aug 2007 2:24 am |
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Desert Traveller
Member Since: 06 Aug 2006
Location: The Gabba - QLD
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Further to the Oz comments above.
If the upper limit of the offroad height is going to be around 80 kph can anything be done to stiffen the suspension at normal height above that speed. It is way too soft on outback roads as a lot of my crunches came in gulleys where the road crown would not contact the exhausts if driven slowly. 06 TDV6 SE with many LR and after-market extras. Used only on weekends and trips out west.
Audi TT Roadster (Daily and around town drive)
VW Eos TDI For Sale
Previously 01 TD5 and 94 TDI
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| 10th Aug 2007 2:56 am |
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Rob Bruce
Member Since: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
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10 km increase is not nearly enough  also we need to make it so the computor does not lower it to the bump stops for the slightest insignificant fault loged, this is most important for safty reasons, it could leave us stranded when the vechle could saftly proseed, I do not think people in Europe understand our conditions in OZ.
We can not expect a tilt tray truck to come and transport the car to a dealer from remote areas like the Simpson or Kimberlys just to re set the computor, it is just rediculas.
Rob
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| 11th Aug 2007 1:20 am |
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JamesWyatt
Member Since: 18 Feb 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
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10forcash wrote:Chris & myself are working on a plug-in box that will delay the speed lowering from offroad height by 10mph...
Your product will sell much better if it removes the automatic lowering function completely. What is the value in keeping the automatic lowering feature? I want to raise and lower it with impunity. 
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| 11th Aug 2007 2:48 am |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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I have no idea why anyone might believe that BBS is not monitoring this post. 
But you are welcome to carry on believing whatever you wish !!!!
In the meantime i will carry on with what i was doing
regards
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| 13th Aug 2007 3:17 pm |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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BBS Spy - the thing is - I think many of us don't need or want the whole rovacom type functionality, at the price that it is - but a simpler and cheaper solution to provide control over suspension height and a couple of other reset basics...
But there will be a large no of owners who will want fuller functionality I'm sure...
cheers,
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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| 14th Aug 2007 7:34 am |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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The reason for the +10mph (not kph  ) increase is that it doesn't increase hthe stresses on the drivetrain too much, also, it decreases the chance of the higher CofG introducing instabilities resulting in a relatively high-speed rollover
Yep, it would be nice to add or takeaway 'features' such as auto lowering but this would require a total redesign of not just the suspension control systems but all systems that 'talk' to it - this take a lot of time and resources but the end product would require firmware modifications to many modules and would cost in the thousands, not hundreds 
That said, based upon your feedback i'll see if we can increase the lowering speed to 45mph rather than 40mph
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| 14th Aug 2007 10:16 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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45MPH would do it for me, thanks.
Now get on with it then.... 
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| 14th Aug 2007 10:42 am |
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simon_arch1
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 502
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= 72 kph in the real language - 80 would have been better, but 70 is way better than 50kph.
Thanks - how is it progressing? What will we be "getting"?
cheers,
Simon D3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
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| 14th Aug 2007 11:56 am |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Hiya Simon.
I am aware of the need for something more dedicated.
You probably mean something like this
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/docs/eas_kicker.wmv
We knocked that up following a request made by members during a forum discussion, not unlike this one.
Reading the value of the bit that enables or disables the automatic lowering facility of the EAS on DIII, as well as the two Hex bytes that make up the trigger speed value for it, and the reciprocal raise values, is a simple matter of knowing their Parameter ID's and which locations they are at. Altering them however also requires the ability negotiation of the 3 byte anti access rolling code security.
We already know the PID's & the value / Bit locations in them, and we can also easily negotiate the security,
So It is only a matter of time for us to get round to adding this to our growing list of capabilities.
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| 22nd Aug 2007 2:46 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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When and how much
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| 22nd Aug 2007 3:03 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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Just hope it's better than the Faultmate.....  i.e. - it works!
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| 22nd Aug 2007 3:10 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Hiya Heine
The feature, will typically be added free of charge to the settings pages of our standard SM129 software module in either low cost FAULTMATE SV Single Vehicle system, or our FAULTMATE MV Multi vehicle systems.
We would do it when we get round to adding additional features to teh EAS for Disco III. The priority of this amongst our other work is directlky goverened by the amount of SM129 owners we have and the demand / importance of additional features.
Although we can make stand alone units such as the EAS Kicker to do specific tasks at one or two hundred pounds sterling, there needs to be sufficient demand for any given project to make it's development cost effective.
Hello Iain, (10forcash)
Thank you for your input.
I understand from our Admin that you got the refund for your MV system and all shipping costs Ok.
Once again i am sorry that you were not happy with your system and that it was not what you expected.
On that note, I am still awaiting a response to my question about what morte you think i could have done for you on this thread http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic10942-90.html
I think it is very important that as many people as possible on this forum get to see and appreciate the level of professionalism our company employed in resolving your obvious disatisfaction with me and our system. It is after all one of the things the forum actually exists for in the first place.
As the owner of a business yourself, i am sure you will also appreciate how important it is to us that the members of this forum realise that without any request for such from yourself, we immediately offered you the option of a full refund including all shipping costs, as soon as it became obvious you were not happy with your system and were unwilling to wait for us to clear up a few small bugs.
It is after all at rare times like these that customers really get to see how the owners of a business is most likely to behave when such matters of dissatisfaction need resolving. After all, every company, however good, will always get some poeple they can't please for whatever reason.
Personally, i am proud to say that i feel i can look back on my comments, behaviour and level of professionalism with pride. I think any prospective customer can read both our comments and now uniquely be fully assured that no matter what the circumstance or provocation, they can expect nothing less than the most professional levels of service at Blackbox Solutions Ltd, Furthermore, we are grateful to you for providing true living proof to everyone that we are indeed a respectable and trustworthy company that will not argue, haggle or otherwise dodge our commitments and promises, as was the case with you, if anyone else is ever unhappy with anything they purchase from us, They too can expect a full refund. That has absolutely always been my policy and to date you are the third person we have ever refunded.
I thank you for providing continuing opportunities that allow me to demonstrate to any potential customers on this forum just what they can expect when choosing to deal with our company.
regards
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| 22nd Aug 2007 4:07 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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OK shall I set up a poll to see who is interested 
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| 23rd Aug 2007 7:53 am |
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Horto22
Member Since: 11 Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 47
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If the computer control systems are so complicated why not just bypass them by approaching the problem from another direction. The suspension heights are all set by similar hieght sensors to that on the D2, so why cant the sensor positions be alterered. I was thinking of installing solenoid ( 1 ateach sensor) to allow the chasis mounting end of the sensor are to be adjusted. If they work similar to D2 a 25mm extension or throw out on the soleniod should lift car 50mm. This would then allow the additional 50mm of lift vai activating Offroad mode.
The solenoids would simply raise all modes by 50 mm allowing standard mode (now 50mm higher) to be maintaind at full speed, the 50 + 50 =100mm offroad mode would still only be available to 40 kmh before lowering back to 50mm raised hieght.
Off coarse the solenoid height could be selected to raise vehicle whatever owner liked. 2010 White D4 TDV6 3.0l SE, Rear Diff Lock.
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| 26th Aug 2007 2:11 am |
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