Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
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If it's not failed yet, its well worthwhile considering fitting geoff's stronger cables, before it does fail.
IT will save a lot of grief and agro when it does fail  My D3 Build Thread
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vinnie
Member Since: 22 Jul 2011
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Mine has just gone tonight as far as i can tell  I press the button and hear the usual noise but it doesnt open so i am presuming from all the previous threads that the cable has broken ???
Geoff, i am planing on getting this done and replaced at the weekend. Any chance you can supply the appropriate cable / advice etc...
Cheers, Jase. He doesn't ask for much........But gives a lot.
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| 10th Sep 2013 7:26 pm |
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Shutts
Member Since: 26 Nov 2011
Location: Tiptree
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While I was in Spain I had a similar issue where the top boot lid wouldnt open when the car was left in the sun. Actuator was moving but it wouldnt open, however, once it had cooled down it opened. Anyone else had the same issue or is my cable actually on the wayout?
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| 10th Sep 2013 8:26 pm |
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Gwiz
Member Since: 17 Feb 2012
Location: Chelmsford
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Guys fitting a new cable is ok, but you need to put a small cable tie round it when its fitted back into the plastic fitting on the actuator, as i found out mine had worked its way out due to enthusiastic closing of tail gate not me of course, its a poor design, and yes im with Chalky and the para cord as a fail safe release, why LR didnt do something like this i dont know, they have one on the fuel filler, when i do mine will post some pictures.  Graham
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| 11th Nov 2013 7:44 pm |
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Crackers
Member Since: 18 Sep 2013
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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Chalky - any chance you could elaborate on what you mean by using a bit of paracord as a preventative measure?
Cheers.
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| 13th Dec 2013 10:38 pm |
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JDS
Member Since: 27 Oct 2011
Location: Sunderland
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This thread is great, thanks so much as we were quoted 690€ (inc. a bunch of parts for the TOP tailgate that were obviously not needed) by the local stealer.
It took me under 2hrs this morning and that includes making up a cable-end; as we are off for Christmas tomorrow there was no time to order a new cable (or a new end from Geoff.). I used a large rivet as my cable-end as I reasoned that the collar of the rivet fitted perfectly into the plastic mechanism of the actuator that it would still operate even if the 90 degree end broke over time.
Now it's working again, when I get back after Christmas I'll take it apart again and add in a loop of para-cord (as per chalky;s suggestion) in case it ever does lock out again to save me the loss of skin on the back of my hand when getting access via the trim panel !!
Here's a couple of pix of my cable-end fix if anyone may find it useful.
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| 22nd Dec 2013 12:56 pm |
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Crackers
Member Since: 18 Sep 2013
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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Loving the rivet idea!
What sort of connector is it that you have used to connect the rivet and cable?
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| 22nd Dec 2013 2:22 pm |
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Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
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looks like standard electrical strip block to suit  I'm liking the rivet idea too
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| 22nd Dec 2013 2:43 pm |
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NickJ
Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
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That's a good cheap fix. I guess if you dont want the connector being that large, just strip off the plastic leaving the metal and the two screws. However, it definately wont be seen again so it doesn't matter.
I almost found out the hard way that my cable end was cracking, and stripped the lock just in time I reckon before it broke.
This is definately one preventative maintenance job that has to be done to prevent a whole world of pain later on when it does break.
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| 22nd Dec 2013 3:13 pm |
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richardch
Member Since: 27 Dec 2005
Location: Zurich
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I tried this myself and really couldn't get the panel out without breaking it, so I took it to the LR stealership, who then told me we collected it that they had to break the panel and here is a bill for GBP 450
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| 22nd Dec 2013 7:03 pm |
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Adigorn
Member Since: 14 Mar 2010
Location: Birmingham
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Quote:that they had to break the panel
we are just much more talented here 
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| 22nd Dec 2013 8:09 pm |
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Crackers
Member Since: 18 Sep 2013
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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Excellent!
So the dillema now is whether to do a DIY upgrade (allen key or rivet variant), or to replace with the LR upgraded part (which now appears to cost circa £50 rather than the £25 mentioned in earlier posts) before it goes on me! 
I am surprised that no-one has mentioned including fitting a replacement water shedder(EOT500013) as they are only about a tenner.... 
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| 22nd Dec 2013 8:51 pm |
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JDS
Member Since: 27 Oct 2011
Location: Sunderland
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Crackers wrote:Loving the rivet idea!
What sort of connector is it that you have used to connect the rivet and cable?
It's just a regular 400 volt electrical connector (needs to be a big one to take the rivet body and the cable, but this means that both of the screw terminals are clamping to both the rivet and the cable). If I'd have had more time I'd have filled it full of solder too, but a generous blob of metal glue helps keep them together if the screws ever fail. It's all housed inside the actuator unit, so looks no different to the original part and there is plenty of space. Of course, you could chop off all the plastic as no need for insulation but as there was no space issue I didn't bother (and it helped make a mould for the glue too).
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| 23rd Dec 2013 4:01 pm |
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Crackers
Member Since: 18 Sep 2013
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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Thanks for that. I can see that it's a bit of 'choc block' now! And I did go to Specsavers! 
Quote:a generous blob of metal glue helps keep them together if the screws ever fail
What metal glue did you use?
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| 23rd Dec 2013 4:12 pm |
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JDS
Member Since: 27 Oct 2011
Location: Sunderland
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Just a regular two-part epoxy that is designed to glue metal.
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