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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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No - proper tyre place just up the road - Bryant Tyres
GGATs were £162 each fitted Duncan
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If I'd known I was going to be so thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more beer last night.
FFRR Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 MY17
D4 HSE MY13 SOLD
FFRR 3.6 Vogue TDV8 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D4 SE TECH MY15 SOLD
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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methley wrote:Is your local tyre dealer's name Ken by any chance?  (cue spitting of dummy out of pram....)
 2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
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| 4th Oct 2012 4:56 pm |
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dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
Location: Gloucestershire
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Sounds like they're a good recommendation - do they post out?
Always good to hear about a good value supplier to add to the list....
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| 4th Oct 2012 5:12 pm |
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Mossy
Member Since: 01 Jul 2005
Location: Hollyoaks, UK
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LT wrote:...Just a good excuse to buy more tyres really, I'm down to just two full sets for the D3 now and I'm getting withdrawal symptons....
I so feel your pain... for me its need versus want. I need so few things, but want so many - tyres are just another "want" on the list that is pretty damn long!
D3 HSE V8...
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| 5th Oct 2012 12:38 pm |
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bundubasha
Member Since: 02 Nov 2010
Location: Nairobi
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I have run a set of Duratracs on my D3 for almost two years now and they have worn really well. They are on 17s, and are surprisingly quiet, good off road, and being a taller profile absorb potholes/curbs quite well. They are very poor in terms of resistance to thorns through the sidewall, but I guess that won't bother too many of you that much! They also make a hell of a noise if you really have to stamp on the anchors on tarmac - many a pedestrian has leapt out of my way under heavy braking - they squeal long before they lose grip!
I didn't know you could get them in 19... hmmm... __________________
ex - 1972 lightweight
ex - various Disco 1
ex - 2004 Disco 2 TD5
now - 110 challenge vehicle with 3.9 V8 and Unimog portals
Now - 2006 TDV6 Kaymar rear bar, lone ranger tank, various expensive out of warranty repairs...
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| 8th Oct 2012 8:12 am |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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got a call from garage this morning, tyres will be in tomorrow morning  Duncan
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If I'd known I was going to be so thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more beer last night.
FFRR Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 MY17
D4 HSE MY13 SOLD
FFRR 3.6 Vogue TDV8 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D4 SE TECH MY15 SOLD
D4 XS MY12 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D3 HSE MY06 - Re-Cycled Worldwide
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| 8th Oct 2012 9:09 am |
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Windy Corner
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: South Leicestershire
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Dear All,
I have been following this and the other GG AT thread with interest.
I currently have GG AT's and got them about 18 months ago. They have been okay, quiet, wear well, do most things fairly well. I have only struggled once in deep mud (not unexpected for an AT tyre) and on greasy roundabouts (albeit only when driven enthusiastically)
Now that the tyre labels are here, my thoughts are that the AT's don't seem to do themselves any favours :-
Tyre Fuel Wet Grip Noise Mountain/Snowflake
Wintrac 4 Extreme/C/E/71/Yes
Pirelli Ice & Snow/E/C/72/Yes
Duratrac/E/E/74/Yes
Pirelli ATR/E/C/71
GG AT/F/F/74
Pirelli Scorpion Zero/E?C/72
I am considering a winter tyre and from the above, it would seem to me, that the Duratrac is a good option, no worse than a Scorp Zero for Fuel and as good as a Wintrac 4 Extreme for Wet Grip.
Does the fact that the Duratrac has a Mountain/Snowflake symbol, make it a "proper" winter tyre, with the right compound rubber for low temperatures ?
The GGAT's with a Double F (  ) look like a bit of a compromise ?
Rik
Edited for formatting Discovery 4 HSE SDV6 Baltic Blue
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| 8th Oct 2012 12:06 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Windy, were did you get the data for the Pirelli ATR?
There isn't any showing on the Pirelli UK website, but on the German version is shows B for both fuel and wet grip and 72 db for noise.
My understanding is that the mountain/snowflake is the universal sign (for the EU anyway) that a tyre has met the minimum standards required for cold temperatures, snow and ice.
Personally, I'd doubt if the Duratracs would be a good as the "on road" Goodyear winter tyre, on tarmac. However, on deep fresh snow, they might be better.
One things for sure, all on road winter tyres that I know off are rubbish on mud. I've witnessed first hand the Duratrac's driving through mud and they're good
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| 8th Oct 2012 4:12 pm |
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Windy Corner
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: South Leicestershire
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I think the graphic shown against ATR is a generic one.
If you go further into both the UK and German sites and select a tyre size. it shows E / C
I have put a copy in my gallery
I must admit I couldn't find the right tyre size, but I wouldn't have thought tyre size would make that much difference
Rik Discovery 4 HSE SDV6 Baltic Blue
Discovery 3 S TDV6 Zambezi Silver - Now gone........
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| 8th Oct 2012 4:23 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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I see, that's for a 265 70 16. Obviously it must vary depending on size, but of course that would be the same for all brands.
In real life, I think the Duratrac looks more aggresive than photos would have you think. So I'm surpised to see how good it rates.
But tyre technology has moved on and looking at the relatively tame tread pattern on the Pirelli ATR, I'd never have believed that it is as good off road as it is.
I'm looking forward to hearing how Dunc finds the mpg in comparison to the Wrangler HP's. If it's not much worse, I'd consider a set of Duratracs to use in the winter.
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| 8th Oct 2012 4:39 pm |
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AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
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You will all see over the months how this tyre labeling is a load of old cod, and I would guess a few punch-up's with the big boys.
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| 8th Oct 2012 5:04 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23519
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It will be interesting to see how it develops.
If they subsequently change the ratings, it will make a mockery of the whole thing.
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| 8th Oct 2012 5:07 pm |
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AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3224
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It's a mine field  and so far we are seeing some very interesting labeling to put one in front of another.
And when "nobby-no-nuts" get's his/her hands on it..................
Have a look at some of the labeling on import budget tyres...........looks like they must be the best in the world. NOT !
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| 8th Oct 2012 5:26 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23519
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Going back to Windy Corner's post. Are the ratings for the GG AT correct? Or have GG purposely given the AT the 2nd from worst rating for fuel consumption and wet grip? Can't see why they would do that  .
That's of course assuming that GG rated the AT themselves, rather than giving it to another tyre company to test (as per an earlier post from AJS).
If you can't accurately compare like with like, then it's worthless!
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| 8th Oct 2012 6:47 pm |
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