oldsalt
Member Since: 15 Dec 2009
Location: Melbourne
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Thanks a lot for the "how to" accompanied by the very good photos........just off to buy some diff oil and do the job.
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28th May 2010 2:39 am |
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Bodsy
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Grahjam wrote:only difference I came across which was a bit strange, was the drain plug was a 3/8th square (mines an 06 plate). Gave me a bit of a problem as I had bought the 14mm hex and did n't have the other size to hand.
I also followed the instructions above (great info RidgebackMoor ) and my MY07 EuIV D3 also had the AF 3/8 square drain. Luckily I had a multi oil plug thing available.
Note For Front Diff:
Up to differential serial number 254845: Tighten the hexagonal drive drain plug to 54 Nm (40 lb.ft).
From differential serial number 254846: Tighten the 3/8'' square drive drain plug to 28 Nm (21 lb.ft).
The Filler plug should be tightened to 34Nm
Note for Rear Diff
Up to differential serial number 254325: Tighten the hexagonal drive drain plug to 54 Nm (40 lb.ft).
From differential serial number 254326: Tighten the 3/8'' square drive drain plug to 28 Nm (21 lb.ft).
The Filler plug should be tightened to 34Nm
I also completed the Transfer Box oil drain. (uses Special Transfer Box Oil instead of XO Diff Oil). The Transfer box used 8mm hex head for both Drain and fill.
Transfer Box Drain and Filler Plug should both be tightened to 22Nm. Bodsys Brake Bible
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21st Jun 2010 2:46 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Seen as we now know that the diffs wear excessively, would it be recommended to change the oil after shorter time/milage or at the recommended intervals, i am tempted to do the every 2 yrs, 20k, may be a little ott but better that than new diffs.
what is the ratio of failures on vehicles used off road to solely on road.??
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27th Jul 2010 7:05 pm |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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Quote:Seen as we now know that the diffs wear excessively
Really , according to who ?
Ive had my D3 for 4 years and done 120k miles, plenty of offroad use and had no problems whatsoever with the diffs.
Ive had the diff / half shaft seals changed front and rear but thats it ! Duncan
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27th Jul 2010 7:27 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Hi DD i kinda put two threads together, as a newbie i am allowed to make sweeping statements with little or no real info to back it up,
But having read a few posts recently about diffs failing at silly low mileage i thought i would post to see if those in the know change their diff oil more often than the recommended interval.
thanks for being gentle.
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28th Jul 2010 11:30 am |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
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no worries, no offense intened - just typed my thoughts in as brief a sentence as possible..
must be more diplomatic in future.... must be more diplomatic in future.... must be more diplomatic in future....
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28th Jul 2010 4:16 pm |
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bambi
Member Since: 10 Apr 2009
Location: south yorkshire
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Hi DD no offense taken, at all, you thought ( i hope) and you typed, i do prefer the more base side of life myself, if you learn how to be diplomatic let me know will ya.
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29th Jul 2010 7:27 pm |
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Rogo
Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
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Okay another D3.UK newbie... but not a newbie to the vehicle
Anyway - the recommended fluid is the SAF XO... I actually picked up a quart from my dealer and its labeled as "special" gear lube 75w90 synthetic...
does anyone know if its really special or if a quality 75w90 synthetic will suffice?
Thanks! Ian
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9th Aug 2010 6:44 pm |
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Rogo
Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
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Unnecessary self quote removed
I talked to local Land Rover mechanic... DO NOT USE STANDARD 75W90 SYNTHETIC. The Castrol SAF XO has a special additive package unique to these trucks. Ian
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10th Aug 2010 12:57 am |
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landyjay
Member Since: 13 Dec 2010
Location: Manchester
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Can get Official Service Sheet with all service types for reference. As stipulated By Land Rover LV3 LR Technicin
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13th Dec 2010 10:51 pm |
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disco_steve
Member Since: 25 Aug 2009
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DiscoDunc wrote:Quote:Seen as we now know that the diffs wear excessively
Really , according to who ?
Ive had my D3 for 4 years and done 120k miles, plenty of offroad use and had no problems whatsoever with the diffs.
Ditto - almost) my D3 is on 114.5k at mo in 4 years, - again NO issues with the diffs, and still on original oil seals
(not really a true comparison, but . . . my D2 clocked a healthy 190k and the diffs gave NO trouble, so it's starting to look good for LR as far as diffs go Never get mad - get even !!
06 D3 now gone to family member and still going strong at 265k
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04 D2 TD5 - (clocked 189k from new)
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13th Dec 2010 11:13 pm |
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anglefire
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I did mine yesterday - though not using this guide as I hadn't spotted it until this morning - which is about typical!
Funnily enough, I found the front fill plug harder to find than the rear - though was easier to fill - which I just used the bottles. The last 100-200ml of the rear diff I managed to get the bottle vertical and let it drain in. I did the rear first - logic being it was a complete bottle plus a bit of the second one!
Another update is that you can no longer get the SAF-XO oil. It's been replaced by Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90
The oil that came out of my diffs was a lot darker than the photo's here. It was also changed about 10K miles later than the book - mind you if it was going to be done by a dealer, it would have been at least another 3K, so I guess not overly critical.
I also checked by gear box level (It was flushed earlier this year, but thought I would just check it whilst under the car and looking to see the make of fuel filter - which is the same as the one in the first pictures Mark.
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8th May 2011 9:08 am |
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tlt
Member Since: 01 Sep 2006
Location: Austin, TX
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If you want to see what the diff looks like on the inside with 90k on the clock have a look at my gallery. I am glad everyone is getting on board of regular change of the diff fluids before bearings, etc. fail. If you are going to replace seals, you might as well rebuild the whole thing, replace bearings, etc.
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9th May 2011 4:37 pm |
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euangibson
Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
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My front diff failed recently at just 66k....would defo recommend more regular diff oil change.LR say 150,000 miles before diff oil change but from my experience I will certainly be doing it far more regularly than that,especially as the all-in price of a new fitted one(there are no "old " ones about any more) is about £1000.
Compare that to the price of the oil and its a no-brainer "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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9th May 2011 6:44 pm |
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tlt
Member Since: 01 Sep 2006
Location: Austin, TX
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You can rebuild your old ones though, the parts are available, fitting a used one is just buying a little time. Cost of rebuilding should be less than a used one, with a full life ahead of it.
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10th May 2011 7:10 pm |
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