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I did a trace back in another car now and can see at the top of a hill it started. Then at 4 points over 5.6 miles it’s visible on the road, about a pint, where I’ve accelerated and strain is on the engine. Any other tome the road is clean.
I’m going to strip the belts and pulleys now and see what’s next
Peter. When you say 250 miles to knocking. Does this mean due to no oil causing abrasion on the components? Or basically when an oil pump leaks oil it causes some kind of knock on effect?
I’m PRAYING it’s the missing bolt under the pump that’s allowed oil to squirt under pressure and I can re fit and seal or replace the pump.
Completely lost and terrifiedDisco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 5:11 pm
cmb2020
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Like is a leaking gasket seal on pump primarily a writeoff or not associated with the kind of oil problems that cause wrote off?
As my recent pump work and missing bolt is looking like the exact area
The drive was mainly down hill after the initial spillage. And the oil was right up to brim. So I’m confident it didn’t drive with zero oil at least.Disco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 5:24 pm
Pete K
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When an engine has been starved of oil it will create knocking long term. Particularly when the engine is warm.
Let’s hope you have been lucky that oil has still been leaking when you stopped
2nd Jun 2021 5:27 pm
cmb2020
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The very last pint (ish) is directly where I stopped. It was a 5 mile journey in about 5 minutes.
This is some scary ezperimeceDisco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 5:29 pm
Pete K
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Anyway. Just get it fixed. Hopefully not spending much, and see how it drives.
2nd Jun 2021 5:32 pm
cmb2020
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Thank you for the adviseDisco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 5:34 pm
cmb2020
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Few things to update on
Do I need to set the locking pins before I removed the crank shaft wheel (not the big centre bolt but the smaller ones). Or can I carefully undo them while monitoring the crank doesn’t spin?
Also attached is an image of inside a box. It’s got black oil dripping inside it. I’m presuming it’s the air intake? Image shows what part it is. And at bottom you can see reflection in oil liquid. Wondering if this is an indication of any tell tale signs please?
I’ve got down to the cam belt case but before I remove it I need to know about the crank wheel as above. To remove it and inspect the pump.
Thanks
Disco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
Buckley, North Wales
2nd Jun 2021 8:46 pm
cmb2020
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Update to post just now..
Have tried to get to the pump without removing Starter yet etc.
Thinking wise to at least see the pump and hope maybe this Alan key screw may be fixable without getting serious with removing crank bolt etc and main belt.
Then if I can see it’s the crank seal or pump gasket maybe I’ll know to get serious. But PRAYING it’s a simple solution.Disco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 8:48 pm
Pete K
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Yeah you can remove the small bolts without locking kit.
It’s not unusual to have oil in the intake.
If it’s loads, it’s a worry
2nd Jun 2021 8:55 pm
PROFSR G
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May have just spat out the crank seal, hopefully he'll get away with it.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
2nd Jun 2021 9:09 pm
cmb2020
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Thanks
Here’s a video so far if it gives any clues:
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2nd Jun 2021 9:22 pm
Pete K
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I wouldn’t know, but could be crank seal, as it seams wet below that point.
2nd Jun 2021 9:27 pm
PROFSR G
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There's a hole in the bottom of the belt cover, if the crank seal has failed it's likely oil is running out from there. Unfortunately, you will need to remove the belt cover to confirm, but as you know it's not a big job.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
2nd Jun 2021 9:34 pm
cmb2020
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Yeah I’m thinking (far from a pro opinion) but it looks like inside the cam belt casing as the oils coming from the hole at the bottom of the casing. I don’t think it could be anything else. If it was the pump gasket it would have been more messy.
Let’s say it was the crank seal.. would that be repairable without removing belt and inserting locking tools? By any chance a lucky escape work wise?
When professor says ‘just’ crank seal come out I am feeling a bit less worried. Could potentially be a new bolt and seal. With the burden of labour.
Love this car but when it goes wrong it’s terrifying after everything invested in itDisco 3 SE Manual 2005 V6 2.7
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2nd Jun 2021 9:35 pm
PROFSR G
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No, you'll have to remove the bottom pulley and replace that bolt new as well. So Starter out, lock the cams and flywheel. Remove belt and bottom pulley then thoroughly clean spotless and dry. Then refit the new seal, pulley and crank bolt. Then reassemble.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
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