They arrange collection in the week or two after your new one gets delivered, but the discount is applied at checkout.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
12th Dec 2021 7:09 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13938
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
12th Dec 2021 7:22 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13938
NoDo$h wrote:
Blowing it up is a bit extreme
Makes it easier to strip if its already in pieces. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
12th Dec 2021 7:23 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
Christmas tree lights
I’m sure they tangle themselves up in the box.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
12th Dec 2021 7:53 pm
mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2702
NoDo$h wrote:
mse wrote:
My ups died yesterday, same thing well out of warranty though
Might be worth a look on APC's offer. They are giving trade in on other makes too, and as it's for recycling it doesn't need to be in working order.
Indeed so. Extremely poor work by the race director who seemed only interested in the race not ending behind the safety car. But then threw in the curve ball by having the cars between the two contenders get out of the way, leaving the guy who had led the race by a country mile up to that point with no chance at all.
Seems to be the US "we must have a show!!!" influence coming to the fore.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
12th Dec 2021 8:15 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13125
F**kwits in fog.
Yes, it's day time and therefore there is light on the road immediately in front of you. But the distance you can see - and more importantly be seen - is around 100m with patches of thicker fog giving 50m or even less.
So why haven't you turned on your headlights and / or fog lights? Because, of course, you're a f**kwit, that's why.
Usual suspects are people with only DRLs on and thus no tail lights, but also older cars with no lights at all. They loom out of the fog giving you a few seconds notice that they're there.
Total lunacy.
Sadly, a camera van won't do anything to educate people about this.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
19th Dec 2021 4:03 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23388
^Plenty of fwits around who drive with fog lights whenever it’s dark or raining. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
19th Dec 2021 4:19 pm
Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7281
Fog lights should be used in daytime rain conditions, when water spray leads to poor visibility. An ex-Disco3 / FFRR owner ......
..... now on the JLR electric highway.
19th Dec 2021 5:08 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23388
I’m afraid you’re wrong PaulJ.
In exceptional “heavy rain” if visibility is seriously reduced, not as you said “poor visibility” and not as I said when raining.
“Another no-no is using fog lights when it's wet. The extra brightness of fog lights is doubled by their reflection off a wet road surface, ...”
“The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 prohibits the use of front and rear fog lights to dazzle other drivers when visibility is not reduced or when the vehicle is parked.
Confusingly, using fog lights in drizzle and rain is therefore not allowed. You are even eligible for a fine from the police if caught.”
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
19th Dec 2021 5:16 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13125
I think if you are on a motorway, for example, where there is both rain and lots of spray, rear fogs can be used because the spray is, effectively, fog. However, their use should be carefully monitored by the driver so that they are turned off should conditions improve.
Sadly, the latter is often a problem - driver leaves in poor conditions e.g. heavy fog, and turns on the fog lights. Good stuff. However, conditions improve during the journey and by the time they've done 10 miles they're in clear conditions but the fog lights are left on for the entire journey.
These days, the chances of someone leaving their fog lights on for days are reduced as most modern cars will reset the fogs when the ignition or the light switch is cycled.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
19th Dec 2021 7:05 pm
Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7281
LT wrote:
I’m afraid you’re wrong PaulJ.
I’m afraid I’m not. An ex-Disco3 / FFRR owner ......
..... now on the JLR electric highway.
19th Dec 2021 8:20 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13125
LT wrote:
I’m afraid you’re wrong PaulJ.
In exceptional “heavy rain” if visibility is seriously reduced, not as you said “poor visibility” and not as I said when raining.
“Another no-no is using fog lights when it's wet. The extra brightness of fog lights is doubled by their reflection off a wet road surface, ...”
“The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 prohibits the use of front and rear fog lights to dazzle other drivers when visibility is not reduced or when the vehicle is parked.
Confusingly, using fog lights in drizzle and rain is therefore not allowed. You are even eligible for a fine from the police if caught.”
All good stuff but drizzle and rain are not the same as heavy spray. Heavy spray is akin to fog and reduces visibility massively. In such conditions, rear fog lights would be allowed because they wouldn't be causing dazzle to other road users.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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