BLFarrar wrote:

The changes have to come from within...
The management out to be senior medical, nursing & technical personnel not the management types we have right now.....academically qualified in most instances but totally lacking in skills, experience, overall capability & the knowledge of what hospitals are all about.

I have a college who is a very capable & qualified marine engineer (1st class steam & motor tickets) that was in charge of the services side of a group of hospitals (heating, power, electrics, structures) that was undermined to have a manager who was half his age no technical qualifications & a paltry amount of management experience be in overall charge. What an injustice as years ago the minimum qualification to get a junior role in hospital services was an HNC preferably an HND electrical.

crews control wrote:

If the NHS is broken, are politicians not right to look at ways to mend it? It’s funny to moan about whats wrong with it and then protest against others wanting change!

“Hands off our NHS” sounds so boring when the bloody thing is broken!

Correct
AND

​IF​
# ​T​he Chief Officer, Chair and Finance Director are the people who set about breaking the organization intentionally, in a way designed so that it could be relatively easily re-constructed;
# They already had a queue / line, of buyers eager and willing to purchase the organization at 'Fire Sale' prices;
# This cabal had infiltrated numerous Fifth Columnists, and Fellow Travellers into positions of power and influence within the organization, who were managing & supervising the faux breakdown;
# The Big Three, and their cohorts had a past record of perpetrating this system of asset stripping;
# Experiments in the total transfer of discrete parts of such organizations in the very recent past had proved 'much less than successful'
# Attempts by these entrepreneurs to set up their own provision had relied on the morals and techniques of cattle rustlers, free-loaders and carpet-baggers

​THEN
Rather than selling off the organization at scrap value, only to find it on the forecourt two weeks later at a premium price, but only available as a rental item​, and
The rental per week was 100 times the scrap value price.

MIGHT
It not be a better idea to sack the present conniving , employ some of the highly skilled professionals (enthusiasts) who actually appreciated the marque, and "DIY"?

AAA

Brian_DL13 wrote:

Of course, the elephant in the room here is that NHS staff - at all levels - are, these days, pretty well remunerated (some extremely well remunerated) when you take into account the gold-plated pension and benefits they have. In that context I have to admit that the posturing of the junior doctors annoys me somewhat

adam wrote:

Brian_DL13 wrote:

Of course, the elephant in the room here is that NHS staff - at all levels - are, these days, pretty well remunerated (some extremely well remunerated) when you take into account the gold-plated pension and benefits they have. In that context I have to admit that the posturing of the junior doctors annoys me somewhat

My eldest is about to qualify as a Doctor (so I'm biased) - but I'm not 100% sure what gold plated pension and benefits she will have?

Surely that is self-evident. Just compare the final-salary pension, the sick pay, maternity pay, holiday allowance with what is commonly available in the private sector

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And how is it fair to have a 'contract' forced onto one party by another? - hence the movement of English doctors wanting to work in Scotland and overseas - particularly Australia?

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Why is it that 36% of Doctors in the UK did not train here? - and Theresa May has the eye watering arrogance to claim they are only here temporarily whilst the NHS works to become 'self sufficient'

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Short sighted and mis-guided view view I'm afraid,

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you have your opinion, I'll have mine 

AAA.Happy.Disco1.Fan wrote:

crews control wrote:

If the NHS is broken, are politicians not right to look at ways to mend it? It’s funny to moan about whats wrong with it and then protest against others wanting change!

“Hands off our NHS” sounds so boring when the bloody thing is broken!

Correct
AND

​IF​
# ​T​he Chief Officer, Chair and Finance Director are the people who set about breaking the organization intentionally, in a way designed so that it could be relatively easily re-constructed;
# They already had a queue / line, of buyers eager and willing to purchase the organization at 'Fire Sale' prices;
# This cabal had infiltrated numerous Fifth Columnists, and Fellow Travellers into positions of power and influence within the organization, who were managing & supervising the faux breakdown;
# The Big Three, and their cohorts had a past record of perpetrating this system of asset stripping;
# Experiments in the total transfer of discrete parts of such organizations in the very recent past had proved 'much less than successful'
# Attempts by these entrepreneurs to set up their own provision had relied on the morals and techniques of cattle rustlers, free-loaders and carpet-baggers

​THEN
Rather than selling off the organization at scrap value, only to find it on the forecourt two weeks later at a premium price, but only available as a rental item​, and
The rental per week was 100 times the scrap value price.

MIGHT
It not be a better idea to sack the present conniving , employ some of the highly skilled professionals (enthusiasts) who actually appreciated the marque, and "DIY"?

AAA

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Brian_DL13 wrote:

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Short sighted and mis-guided view view I'm afraid,

In your opinion

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you have your opinion, I'll have mine 

Indeed

Adam is spot on . as stated my wife works in the pressure cooker environment we all run straight to in crisis also know as the NHS

Gold Plated pension ,
Less than 9 quid an hour for all the she takes from the public as she is the point of contact for them , not to mention physical abuse , dealing with immigrants who think they are due the world and only been in the UK 5 mins
that's my last word as this is such a sensitive issue to me , unless seen from the inside I don't think we are qualified to pass commentPhil