Member Since: 16 Sep 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 637
I too have only recently discovoured Discoverys, wasn't a fan of the original but now see its reasoning as it is still true in the D3/4.
It is sad that LR appear to have missed the point and gone mainstream!
I really don't understand the rear door though, I love the split door as is and as said how on earth will it work in a car park unless it has a wind down glass wich is unlikely given the shape?
As for all LR products looking the same, it is not supprising given that lots of customers can't afford a RR but want to look like it? It has not done Porsche any harm?Series 1 V8
Series 2 Hibrid V8
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3rd Sep 2016 5:29 am
Stuff
Member Since: 04 Sep 2015
Location: In between cradle and grave
Posts: 510
Oh dear. It's not what I hoped it would be. I bet it doesn't even have a curry hook.
I also drive the RRS2. You can stop the gate rising at any height by pressing the gate open button on the key fob. You have to duck to get at the loadspace but it works.
Here's a comparative pic of the RRS tail gate when fully open:
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And here's a pic of the FFRR gate when open:
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It seems there's not a lot of difference between those in-production designs and the D5 in terms of rise.
I bet the D5 is great to drive but I might wait and see what the new Deafener CSW looks like.MY91 110 CSW, so long ago I can barely remember it - sold
MY07 D3 TDV6 HSE with all the extras - sold
MY10 RRS TDV8 Dynamic - sold
MY16 D4 SCV6 HSE
MY16 RRS SDV8 Dynamic
3rd Sep 2016 5:34 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Although many of us are comparing it to this:
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Ben will be along to explain his views on the lack of a fold down "viewing" platform later.
He may very well bite Gerry McGovern if he sees him.... 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โsecondโ cars ๐
2021 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
3rd Sep 2016 6:07 am
simonej
Member Since: 24 Aug 2014
Location: Wakefield
Posts: 103
I'm sort of glad I don't really like it as it makes me feel better about my recent upgrade to an MY15 D4! I had been starting to regret it and was wishing I'd waited for the D5.
I don't know if it's the colour of that one or the tiny wheels but it really doesn't look great to me. The split tailgate is only a minor issue to me but the styling is a major one. All I can do is echo everyone else's comments about it looking the same as all the other LR models. I've a feeling it'll be a case of moving on to a performance estate car after I'm done with the D4. RS6 maybe?
3rd Sep 2016 6:49 am
Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
Posts: 3254
I'd love to hear Clarkson's opinion of it. Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
D4 SDV6 SE Tech Kaikoura Stone MY15.
3rd Sep 2016 6:58 am
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
Well he's well aware of why all the motor shows use disco4's to film out the back... 2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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3rd Sep 2016 7:55 am
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4197
Red Merle wrote:
Although many of us are comparing it to this:
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Ben will be along to explain his views on the lack of a fold down "viewing" platform later.
He may very well bite Gerry McGovern if he sees him....
You may well be right....my two border collies don't like the RRS for that very reason....they can't easily see out of the back window....
Don't want to upset you dog owning guys either over the design fault with the RRS type tailgate.... But where the tailgate lock closes onto the floor slam panel JLR use a little plastic folding flap which closes when the tailgate is up....it stops dirt and debris falling down around the catch....unfortunately this flap also takes off dogs claws.... Lots of stories on the RRS side of dogs losing claws and dew claws when caught in the flap....
Hopefully they have designed it out on the D5!
3rd Sep 2016 8:01 am
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4197
In fact thinking about it that's probably why that new little flap appears on the D5..... To cover the closing latch....
This is why you need a lower tailgate...
LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.
3rd Sep 2016 8:13 am
Landroverfan1
Member Since: 10 Dec 2015
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 275
Woo hoo! Us D3 and D4 owners are going to be millionaires as people realise the D5 is just not as good and no split tailgate so their values will soar. Ferrari 250 GTO, forget it. It's the D3s and 4s that will set the high prices.
Probably.
3rd Sep 2016 8:19 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73133
It's LR's way of putting us on a diet.
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3rd Sep 2016 8:19 am
Skynet
Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: Melksham, Wiltshire
Posts: 868
Perhaps they need to 'design out' the D3/4 shape as it's ideal for the Defner replacement. I've always thought that having an open rear load space or crew cab version of a Disco would be a match for Toyota and Mitsi's. Dave
D3 2006 HSE, Cairns Blue - gone
D4 2016 SE, White
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Farmer Chalk wrote:
Don't want to upset you dog owning guys either over the design fault with the RRS type tailgate.... But where the tailgate lock closes onto the floor slam panel JLR use a little plastic folding flap which closes when the tailgate is up....it stops dirt and debris falling down around the catch....unfortunately this flap also takes off dogs claws.... Lots of stories on the RRS side of dogs losing claws and dew claws when caught in the flap....
Ouch! Well worth knowing in advance though, so thanks 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as โsecondโ cars ๐
2021 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built โ14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
3rd Sep 2016 9:13 am
artschool
Member Since: 21 Aug 2016
Location: chester
Posts: 230
Skynet wrote:
Perhaps they need to 'design out' the D3/4 shape as it's ideal for the Defner replacement.
i would be happy enough with that. rebadge the d4 as the "new defender"
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