craig
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Quote:offer a 'try & buy' at the Rockingham weekend
try Torq-Tune and then buy TFC Desperados? 
How many Desperados are we talking 10?
Need to rationalise this to SWMBO - as i've spent a small fortune over the last week 
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10forcash
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As a test, I drove mine like  on a mixed road drive of 130 miles I got an (displayed) average of 39.8 mpg - got a video @93 miles in with an indicated 40.1  to prove it 8)
This was on an 07MY manual and a 1-off test, still, prior to the remap I was getting about 32 - 33 mpg on the same journey. As with any remap, you'll get either a performance increase and an mpg increase - but not both at the same time
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| 15th Apr 2007 8:38 pm |
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10forcash
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Pricing is still to be finalised, although there should be some form of 'group buy' type discount available at Rockingham
Bear in mind this is a new & unique product, the TDV6 & TDV8 tunes have various 'add-on' modules available to cater for specific usage such as heavy towing or issues such as excessive exhaust smoke, although IMO the 'standard' remap is superior to other offerings, it's the flexibility of the system that makes it a winner
and before anybody mentions it - I have contacted Martin with regard to advertising, just waiting for an answer
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| 15th Apr 2007 8:50 pm |
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craig
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So, as a speculative question, i do circa 18-20k a year.
Mostly bombing down the M40/M1/M25 to London say 12k pa on the way to the office.
The rest is local stuff (Tescos, kids to school and dragging the tintent around).
What kind of Torq-Tune product would you suggest and what (ballpark) benefits would i see?
I appreciate that you can't tell me precisely (mpg benefits etc), but it'd be useful to get an idea, so i know whether to mortgage one of the kids ready for Rockingham
Also would this kind of tune get noticed by the dealer - thinking warranty type issues here  (plus when they upload the latest patches what happens to the T-T?)
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:08 pm |
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10forcash
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Unless you have specific usage or usability issues, the 'standard' remap is fine - well, more than fine - it's  amazing...
torque is boosted by 20%, mpg can raise by 8 - 12%, dependent upon vehicle load, driving style, gearbox etc.
As with most remaps, it's transparent to the dealer and if it's overwritten, i'll remap it again F.O.C.
WRT LR warranty, the onus is on LR to prove that any remap caused a problem - given that LR push their development maps far further than any aftermarket remap does, they'd have a hard time proving it 
provided your disco3 is still in mainland UK
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:15 pm |
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:17 pm |
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craig
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 TFC.
Proof is in the pudding mate, but it smells nice
Whilst we're on the subject of upgrades - couldn't get your hands on a TDV8 and drop it in my D3 could you?
Wouldn't need to mortgage the kids, i'd sell me vital organs... wouldn't need'em for that long anyway 
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:21 pm |
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10forcash
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not yet - although torque curves only provide part of the story, other parameters also affect fuel economy, driveability and performance such as EGR actuation, VVT pressures, fuel rail pressure etc. Some of these contribute to the torque boost and some to the torque spread. This tune concentrates on 'driveability' rather than producing raw performance numbers
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:24 pm |
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discod
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Does Torq Tune work in addition to Turbochip or as a replacement ? TurboChipped 2006 DISCO SE in JAVA Black with BlackLogo's and Black Centre Wheel Caps
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| 15th Apr 2007 9:59 pm |
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10forcash
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It's an alternative or replacement
Here's the video
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| 15th Apr 2007 10:02 pm |
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craig
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Impressive 10, very impressive, but what was the warning in the last second of the clip - Overspeed ......
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| 15th Apr 2007 10:06 pm |
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10forcash
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I was just flicking through the readings using the 'i' button to give the readouts although IIRC the speed was slightly over the legal maximum for a dual carriageway at that point
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| 15th Apr 2007 10:11 pm |
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SPOTTER
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Well TFC, wehen you are allowed to spill the beans, I would also be interested in what you are offering.......... end of an era ....... maybe a Defender when it appears.......
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| 16th Apr 2007 8:44 am |
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WOODY179
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10forcash wrote:Pricing is still to be finalised, although there should be some form of 'group buy' type discount available at Rockingham
can't make the Rockingham event  1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 16th Apr 2007 10:31 pm |
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10forcash
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no worries - i'm sure I can give you a demo in mine
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| 16th Apr 2007 10:33 pm |
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