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And not far from me,maybe worth a trip.
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30th Jan 2012 12:36 am
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Right its not hard but I'm confused,how come nobody can do anything with these injectors ie repair them but you can buy service exchange ones ranging from £140 to £220 each do these all come from the same place or is there some poleaxe making cheese nozzles in a gardon shed somewhere I was warned today that these maybe just ones that have been ultrasonic cleaned and past a test or there repaired with copied parts so how do i know what im getting,and is there supposed to be a warranty with them if so how long for,
I know i could just buy new ones from Nick and not worry about it but there's a big price difference
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31st Jan 2012 1:29 am
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its my understanding that these are seimens and are only available from LR, two versions OEM NEW LR ones at £180ish plus vat, plus £50 surcharge for yer old one or service exchange ones/recon units which are around £30ish cheaper plus £50 surcharge.
In general, I would have yer existing tested whilst insitu by specialist before spending monies on having them ALL changed, IMO there is no reason to do them all at the same time, just seems to be "the way its done" rather than "it should be done" - a bit like ARB where often its easier to change the whole arm rather than the bushes.
The guys at Bristol are only £60ish per hour and WILL fit new ones at that price rather than £100+ at yer LR dealer
LR RTS puts them down at 70mins per injector, these Bristol guys quoted me £400 to change all of em
OEM LR are warrantied for 12 months BTW
31st Jan 2012 1:37 am
SteveNorman
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Most of the 'Landrover exchange' ones are actually new, I have yet to see a reconditioned one from Landrover.
Reconditioned from other sources, well, if other injectors are anything to go by, the quality can vary so much.
from a 'clean' to new siemens
I personally would only use genuine.
regards
Steve
31st Jan 2012 9:48 am
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character wrote:
its my understanding that these are seimens and are only available from LR, two versions OEM NEW LR ones at £180ish plus vat, plus £50 surcharge for yer old one or service exchange ones/recon units which are around £30ish cheaper plus £50 surcharge.
In general, I would have yer existing tested whilst insitu by specialist before spending monies on having them ALL changed, IMO there is no reason to do them all at the same time, just seems to be "the way its done" rather than "it should be done" - a bit like ARB where often its easier to change the whole arm rather than the bushes.
The guys at Bristol are only £60ish per hour and WILL fit new ones at that price rather than £100+ at yer LR dealer
LR RTS puts them down at 70mins per injector, these Bristol guys quoted me £400 to change all of em
OEM LR are warrantied for 12 months BTW
Thanks mate just to clarify only 2 were showing up as possibly faulty on wiggs msv 2 so i removed all 6 and sent away for testing and the report back was all 6 injector nozzles and tips are badly worn so a small amount of leakage/dribbling on all 6.
So what i cant get my head around is where are these so called service exchange injectors coming from whats been done to them to make them service exchange if no parts are available, is it just a quick ultrasonic clean check the spray pattern then out the door or are all service exchange injectors coming from Siemens them self.
I Will give Nick a ring tomorrow to confirm prices i think he said around £248 each new + vat = £1785 and about £1550 for exchange ones.
I did find a company today that can do 6 service exchange injectors with 12months unlimited mileage warranty for £600 + vodka and tonic but again where did they come from whats been done to them
Or i can get some from the company that tested my injectors for £175 each +vat and they wont charge me for testing which is about £120 for all 6 so total £1250 inc
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Most of the 'Landrover exchange' ones are actually new, I have yet to see a reconditioned one from Landrover.
Reconditioned from other sources, well, if other injectors are anything to go by, the quality can vary so much.
from a 'clean' to new siemens
I personally would only use genuine.
regards
Steve
Thanks Steve i guess you pay your money and all that,i better go and sell my body for a couple of nights,but knowing my luck i would get 10 jobs and end up with 20 refunds
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31st Jan 2012 11:46 pm
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My personal choice would be have them all back, stick them back in, find the two bad ones again, renew just those, & go from there.
If only two showed as faulty, I would suspect those two would have been worse in their 'tests'.
I don't send any away for testing, my previous experiences on other common rail cars has showed testing off car to be unreliable.
HTH
Steve
1st Feb 2012 7:25 am
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Thanks Steve that's what I'm going to do then Will keep you all informed Wanted D4s non runners pm for competitive price.
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1st Feb 2012 8:09 am
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SteveNorman wrote:
My personal choice would be have them all back, stick them back in, find the two bad ones again, renew just those, & go from there.
If only two showed as faulty, I would suspect those two would have been worse in their 'tests'.
I don't send any away for testing, my previous experiences on other common rail cars has showed testing off car to be unreliable.
HTH
Steve
Agree.
Replace the faulty two and go from there...so what can I fiddle with today that ain't broken ...?
1st Feb 2012 11:10 am
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Spoke the fella that's tested my injectors and asked for them to be returned as i cant afford all 6 just yet he had no problem with that and even offered to refund the testing fee if I bought the injectors off of him at a later date I voiced my concerns with him about the service exchange side of things and he agreed and said he thought the same after speaking with me the first time and had looked into it and said the injectors are brand new not service exchange so what do you think, I'm temped but still agree steve's idea is best I need to come to a decision today on which way I'm going with this so any thoughts on this let me know
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2nd Feb 2012 12:30 pm
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Injectors are making there way back to me will start again Wanted D4s non runners pm for competitive price.
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2nd Feb 2012 4:54 pm
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Hi is this the right part no for my 05 injectors (Siemens 4H-2Q-9K546AEG1-UHF) and am i right in thinking that 07 on had a different part no.
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5th Feb 2012 4:06 pm
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thought we were on to something regards the original post by Liston, however having now spoken to him it would appear to be the case of the gearbox judder showing up at the same time as the injectors - not related but he is going to run autologic to see if his is running fine now that its had new injectors for a while which is going to be very valuable info for all of us with the P02A2 fault code
5th Mar 2012 11:45 am
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found this my friend if yer do find the fault code p02A2 or injector/s at 1400
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after searching regards injectors for the 2.7 tdv6 is post is about the best detailed and help post im going to find tbh .
just want to say a big thanks for the helpful posts and details ,,,,
as personaly im assuming my injectors have had it ,,
reasons been ,
plugged fault code reader in and checked high pressure pump pressure which im seeing 220 on idiol
which im told is normal,
vechical starts drives boosts well , but really bad blue smoke on start up then looks like loads of whitey smoke (fills the street)
128k on the clock
when I looked at injectors I had 1 injector with a value of 1300 and the rest around 650/750
few days on as now its stating injector balance 1,5,3 max and min injector balance and one code stayed injector stuck closed (yet was idioling on 6 clyinders very lumpy smokey , soon as I lift the rpm , revs clean but the smokes still there,,im not seeing any fault codes for pressure issuises or sensors
did a small video here of idiol then 2200rpm log
.ill remove injectors for testing ,
few questions thow??
I gather the intank pump is just to prime high pressure for common rail prime??
is it normal for this injectors to go from one high reading to 5 injectors codes and balance issuises the following day ,, other then this smoke it starts and drives and pulls well tbh
11th Oct 2013 9:18 pm
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Similer problem, on idle runs roughing gear in neutral seems ok ,test shows injector 5 (cylinder 3 high fuel offset)
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