The lawyer who published a “sexist” LinkedIn response from from a fellow barrister is an outspoken feminist who has complained about the “ritual humiliation” of male-dominated workplaces.
Charlotte Proudman, 27, who has been building up her media profile for the past three years by writing for the Guardian, the Independent and several magazines, as well as being a guest on BBC Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour, believes men make workplaces a “repugnant world”.
Her public profile is larger than ever after she shamed Alexander Carter-Silk on Twitter for complimenting her on her “stunning picture” when she invited him to connect to her on LinkedIn, the professional networking site.
She has been accused of cooking up the row as a publicity stunt, but insisted yesterday that “if people don’t experience the repercussions for their actions, which are plainly wrong, then their behaviour will never change, and neither will sexist culture”
Miss Proudman has written at least 35 articles in the past three years for national and online publications. She is also a member of the Fabian Society, the left-wing think-tank dedicated to advancing socialism.
She has a rather ironical surname.
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10th Sep 2015 8:08 pm
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DDDad wrote:
People who meet their partners through work don't complain
I agree particularly with the latter part but that is essentially a mutual choice amongst colleagues when the dynamics of contact have usually progressed over time and suggestions are clear.
This guys comment was a bit different to that because he didn't know her at all ...and it is supposedly a 'professional' site. Not sure action taken by her is proportionate ...but is it right and acceptable ?
The consensus here appears to be that it is acceptable \ inevitable ....What if he was writing it on facebook or twitter and she was your 15 year old daughter ? .....at what point does what he did become different and unacceptable ?21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
10th Sep 2015 8:12 pm
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NJSS wrote:
Miss Proudman ... is also a member of the Fabian Society, the left-wing think-tank dedicated to advancing socialism.
She should read 1984, especially the bits about Thought Crime. On second thoughts, she'd probably turn it into a manifesto. Went for a job as a human cannonball. Not the right calibre.
10th Sep 2015 8:26 pm
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10th Sep 2015 9:08 pm
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DG wrote:
What if he was writing it on facebook or twitter and she was your 15 year old daughter ? .....at what point does what he did become different and unacceptable ?
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DG wrote:
DDDad wrote:
People who meet their partners through work don't complain
I agree particularly with the latter part but that is essentially a mutual choice amongst colleagues when the dynamics of contact have usually progressed over time and suggestions are clear.
This guys comment was a bit different to that because he didn't know her at all ...and it is supposedly a 'professional' site. Not sure action taken by her is proportionate ...but is it right and acceptable ?
The consensus here appears to be that it is acceptable \ inevitable ....What if he was writing it on facebook or twitter and she was your 15 year old daughter ? .....at what point does what he did become different and unacceptable ?
"Mutual" is a description that can only be applied after the fact. The first person's interest is usually unrequited, but they can't possibly know that in advance.
If this guy didn't know the barrister, why did she consider him part of her network and approach him on LinkedIn? To me the word "stunning" is synonymous with "fantastic", "awesome" or "brilliant"; there is no automatic assumption of sexual/romantic interest at all. The guy probably was saying that she looked attractive in her picture but, IMO, he couched it in completely neutral terms, as he should.
Some of the other comments on this thread are, IMO, misogynistic. But they might just as well be parodies. I'll always give people the benefit of any doubt, because I believe in free speech and fair comment. Went for a job as a human cannonball. Not the right calibre.
10th Sep 2015 9:31 pm
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If you read her comments why does she even need a picture of herself on Linked in anyway?
It has no bearing on her ability to do her job so why put it up there especially when it's clearly looks like a fashion shot.IID PRO
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10th Sep 2015 9:38 pm
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An mutual attraction is rarely commenced verbally and whomever progresses first has usually read the green light signal to do so.
It is an odd first comment to make in a professional environment ...maybe as odd as Paul has pointed out in him saying his own daughter is "hot" 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
10th Sep 2015 9:40 pm
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Isn't that an oxymoron? Surely the person giving the green light was the one making the first move!
armalites wrote:
If you read her comments why does she even need a picture of herself on Linked in anyway?
It has no bearing on her ability to do her job so why put it up there especially when it's clearly looks like a fashion shot.
Brilliant (stunning) observation! If she doesn't want to be judged by looks, ditch the photos. Went for a job as a human cannonball. Not the right calibre.
10th Sep 2015 9:44 pm
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10th Sep 2015 9:53 pm
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I wonder what would happen if someone said that she had made a stunning opening statement in a court case?
I don't see how the word stunning is sexist as it makes no reference to someone's sex. If he had said "All you female lawyers are stunning" then that would have been different.IID PRO
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...you mean as in him saying his own daughter was "hot" is a reference to her being a bit warm 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
10th Sep 2015 9:57 pm
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Paul J. wrote:
DG wrote:
What if he was writing it on facebook or twitter and she was your 15 year old daughter ? .....at what point does what he did become different and unacceptable ?
In my experience, parents with healthy relationships with their daughters tease them with the kind of banter and comments they can expect from the Big World Outside. Parents who don't end up with highly strung little princesses who think the world is made of candy floss. Went for a job as a human cannonball. Not the right calibre.
10th Sep 2015 10:01 pm
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I read that, as she just didn't like being called 'stunning'. I think she's more of a 'call me a dirty little s##t' kind of girl!!!!
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