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guys, what bottle jack to look for, you have to winde the cars so high i bet some will not get high enough to get the wheel off, any thoughts
8th Jun 2014 5:46 pm
Ken
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Redgull wrote:
its not a whinge,this jack is to use for a 2.7t landrover discovery 3 simple,and this thing could kill somebody one day, will you stick up for it then? hope something like this never happens to you scissor jack, bottle or whatever! stay safe, me and my daughter were lucky today
hi guys, yes, my car jack collapsed !!! nearly got the front wheel off the ground and bang she came down like 2.7 ton of bricks,scared the....... it looks like it has stripped the thread ! any thoughts,anyone else had this, be careful guys and gals
...........this is the way these jacks WILL collapse
if they dont topple sideways
Redgull you've been lucky....
....maybe someone has to get hurt or worse before landRover admit the issue & realise the device isn't fit for purpose or they get SUED....at worst..BREXIT - done properly.
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8th Jun 2014 5:55 pm
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Someone has had 10 years to get hurt ....any sign yet ? Meanwhile 200 people have died getting out of bed ...are we banning beds ? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Jun 2014 6:20 pm
Robbie
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Why do some members repeatedly defend the jack each and every time someone reports a stripped jack screw?
I think some just like arguing the toss, but it is rather alarming when the jack lets go on you. Most mechanical failures on here are an inconvenience with a financial penalty and we don't call that whinging; but a failed jack really gets your attention as the risk to limbs is obvious.
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8th Jun 2014 6:49 pm
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I'm not defending it as such but it's not my experience of using one more than two dozen times ...and to be fair there aren't that many reported on this site proportionately. I do have to wonder whether there's something more in common with the way they are used tbh 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Jun 2014 6:57 pm
Robbie
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We've had this debate before and it is a manufacturing and material issue. The first that failed on me was on a sunny day, flat concrete and no hurry. The car hardly moved as the jack just buckled on winding. Next failure was the stripped thread as my dealer and I experimented on his forecourt. My 4th D3 jack worked just fine on a number of occasions over many years.
I know how to use a jack and and my experience shows that there are 'good' jacks out there, but they should be good to go in when needed and not pose a safety hazard. In the early days of the D3 my dealer exchanged many jacks.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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hi, did not think it need rocket science to use a jack !!chock wheels, level ground, brake on, wind up, and bang stripped thread, is that how it works??
8th Jun 2014 7:07 pm
Ken
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Its not about supporting these failures generally have other contributary factors
Absolutely Level Ground ?
Car in Off Road Height first ?
Wheels Chocked ?
Wheel nuts broken prior to lift ?
Wheel not stuck on the hub ?
The list just goes on
These Jacks are an absolute emergency jack when no other means are available if you follow the rules then all will be well
Try a 90/110 on the farm jack that used to be issued that was interesting
Jack on the wishbones not ideal however height is never an issue a 2T jack is fine as your not lifting the whole car and you leave the chassis clear for stands
8th Jun 2014 7:07 pm
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Contributory factors.....................like using the thing to jack your car up?
These things are known to be a problem, end of.Mods:
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8th Jun 2014 7:15 pm
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There's a known problem with every inch of the D3\4 somewhere along the line ....No.1 contributing factor in all of these is human 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
8th Jun 2014 7:22 pm
Redgull
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not worth it narpy,some just wont listen,be interesting how many people have been hurt,as not every landy owner is on this site!!many others around the world, if we have had reports on here there must be others, today i was lucky! got a bash in the head from the wing mirror
8th Jun 2014 7:22 pm
Ken
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Counts you out then DG
8th Jun 2014 7:23 pm
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