Member Since: 12 Aug 2010
Location: Fife
Posts: 2061
cestor wrote:
I too have a non-functional epb and am thinking about whether to attempt an unjam. I have an electronic rear differential and an lpg tank in the spare wheel well. Will I be able to get access to the module without needing to take half the car apart? My indie has said we can have a try with the vehicle on the lift.
In fact, if someone is able to point out where the module is on the pictures below, that would be appreciated...
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I cant see it in your photos.. !
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1 TR6 Rusting away quietly
1 FARR UTV SOLD
1 International Harvester SOLD
7 x D3 all SOLD
2 x D4 both SOLD
1 x Mrs D4 'Panther' SOLD
1 x Outlander van SOLD
1 continual stream of car parts and me living in the garage...
26th Apr 2018 8:40 am
Alphamale
Member Since: 28 May 2014
Location: Belfast
Posts: 497
Can't be seen from these angles, you need to go further forward and look back above the differential.
26th Apr 2018 4:11 pm
Ogru
Member Since: 04 Dec 2016
Location: London
Posts: 15
Disco_Mikey THANK YOU MATE! You just saved me over £1k
gseum Thank you for you picture with the rotation of the brass bar and the comment about using hammer!
It wouldn't pass MOT without the EPB and its booked for one tomorrow. I just finished fixing it last night!
So happy!
Thanks Again!
7th Jun 2018 8:54 am
v8james
Member Since: 08 Sep 2014
Location: Denny
Posts: 30
I can't remove the cover with the module in place as the screws have rusted away. I was going to remove the module and fix it on the bench but I can't get the handbrake cables to detach from the hub are they just push in and have just rusted solid, if so do you have any tips on how to get them out? Or can the cables be detached from the module end?
11th Jun 2018 8:42 pm
Hangman3
Member Since: 25 Jul 2017
Location: Devon
Posts: 33
So I have the cover off, cable is still attached, winder is wound in (as in handbrake on) and I have tried to turn the brass looking spline that goes through the gearbox with a screwdriver. It will not turn. What am I getting wrong please? I have also tried unjamming with a Nannocom, a snapon scanner & JLR SDD. I cant remember which bit one said success & another said failed, but basically it has not worked. Please help & please tell me I don't have to take it all out.
28th Jun 2018 2:27 pm
Hangman3
Member Since: 25 Jul 2017
Location: Devon
Posts: 33
v8james wrote:
I can't remove the cover with the module in place as the screws have rusted away. I was going to remove the module and fix it on the bench but I can't get the handbrake cables to detach from the hub are they just push in and have just rusted solid, if so do you have any tips on how to get them out? Or can the cables be detached from the module end?
If you pull the emergency detach cable, this should separate the cable from the driver side. unscrew the plastic cover where the cable goes in, Detach electrics plug, remove the exhaust heat shield, undo detach any cable retainers from the passenger side cable and emergency one. With the car jacked up on the chassis, there should then be enough room to manipulate it out through the wheel arch. have fun!!
29th Jun 2018 7:55 am
youngscottie
Member Since: 29 Apr 2011
Location: scotland stirling
Posts: 36
Yet again one of mikeys guides has kept the old disco rolling
Thanks and much appreciated
26th Jul 2018 9:27 pm
Hangman3
Member Since: 25 Jul 2017
Location: Devon
Posts: 33
Hangman3 wrote:
v8james wrote:
I can't remove the cover with the module in place as the screws have rusted away. I was going to remove the module and fix it on the bench but I can't get the handbrake cables to detach from the hub are they just push in and have just rusted solid, if so do you have any tips on how to get them out? Or can the cables be detached from the module end?
If you pull the emergency detach cable, this should separate the cable from the driver side. unscrew the plastic cover where the cable goes in, Detach electrics plug, remove the exhaust heat shield, undo detach any cable retainers from the passenger side cable and emergency one. With the car jacked up on the chassis, there should then be enough room to manipulate it out through the wheel arch. have fun!!
Correction!! There aint no way its coming out through the wheel arch. When the cable is disconnected on the driver side. Remove heat shield, remove emergency cable from its retaining clips all the way back to under the EPB button & disconnect from floor there. Remove handbrake cable from retaining clips on the passenger side (left) & there will then be enough slack to get the module out from below.
27th Jul 2018 9:11 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20853
It does come out through the wheelarch, thats how I do them My D3 Build Thread
Member Since: 25 Jul 2017
Location: Devon
Posts: 33
When I tried it with the suspension at full streatch, the only way I could see that it may possibly come out that way is if the brake pipe was removed but even hen it looked sketchy.
27th Jul 2018 8:21 pm
Martin Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 18573
A big thanks to Mikey for this guide - had a screaming module which wouldn't shut up after adjustment.
Turns out the cable had come loose from the offside shoe, took the cover off to see what was going on. I don't think it was quite jammed as I could wind it back with the IID Tool procedure and pull the cable end to get it refitted.06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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20th Aug 2018 3:52 pm
Craigp87
Member Since: 04 Jan 2017
Location: Notts
Posts: 1
Thanks ever so much I’ve just followed your guide on my d4 and I’ve done it saved me a lot of money thanks again it’s working perfect now. 👍🏻👍🏻
26th Aug 2018 1:01 pm
tomo47
Member Since: 11 Sep 2018
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 61
A fantastic guide, thanks for that. Absolutely spot on.
Just to confirm that the spindle in the EPB module did need an enormous whack to get it freed off, probably the most difficult part of the job on axle stands I thought......
11th Sep 2018 3:02 pm
OldPOP
Member Since: 15 Apr 2017
Location: Newbury
Posts: 117
A few things I can add to this super guide
1) spend a while releasing all of the brackets as some of the bolts will jam and this is an easier task if not under time pressure of having the rest of the car in pieces
2) When removing the module tie nylon string to the wheel end of the cables so that you can see the correct path when refitting. helps to be able to push & pull through some very tight places packed with other gubbins.
29th Sep 2018 7:50 am
DiscoSwede
Member Since: 08 Jan 2017
Location: Vänersborg
Posts: 5
Hi guys,
would really appreciate your help here. Getting desperate about my EPB. First I had the screeching, continued using it until it was locked -> had to pull the emergency cable. Now, I have taken it out, replaced the plastic gears in the gearbox, stripped and adjusted the shoes. Was hoping that it would start working, but when I pull the epb switch it seems to go to end position, unscrews the LH cable, and nothing else happens. See video below.
What am I doing wrong?
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