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simon
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WOODY179 wrote:Martin wrote:scorpio wrote:I was getting the same economy as you in my 05 spec but I now have a 06 spec and have seen a big jump in fuel economy I dont know why.
Same manufacturer/type of tyres?
I am also getting much better fuel economy since moving to the 06 spec. The only difference is that I am now running on Pirelli Scorpion Zero's whereas on the 05 it was on Goodyear Wranglers.
mmm opens up the tyre debate again.
So do we go for Wrangler's, Syncrones, Zero's ??? want good wet road, dry road, snow and ice and play day off road performance. Wrangler's seem to be good at all but become DAMN noisy when they wear !
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 9th Nov 2005 9:49 pm |
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Cliff H
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simon wrote:WOODY179 wrote:Martin wrote:scorpio wrote:I was getting the same economy as you in my 05 spec but I now have a 06 spec and have seen a big jump in fuel economy I dont know why.
Same manufacturer/type of tyres?
I am also getting much better fuel economy since moving to the 06 spec. The only difference is that I am now running on Pirelli Scorpion Zero's whereas on the 05 it was on Goodyear Wranglers.
mmm opens up the tyre debate again.
So do we go for Wrangler's, Syncrones, Zero's ??? want good wet road, dry road, snow and ice and play day off road performance. Wrangler's seem to be good at all but become DAMN noisy when they wear !
Should we read anything into it that LR seam to be using Scorpions as standard now or is it just a price thing for them?
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| 9th Nov 2005 9:52 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Cliff H wrote:simon wrote:WOODY179 wrote:Martin wrote:scorpio wrote:I was getting the same economy as you in my 05 spec but I now have a 06 spec and have seen a big jump in fuel economy I dont know why.
Same manufacturer/type of tyres?
I am also getting much better fuel economy since moving to the 06 spec. The only difference is that I am now running on Pirelli Scorpion Zero's whereas on the 05 it was on Goodyear Wranglers.
mmm opens up the tyre debate again.
So do we go for Wrangler's, Syncrones, Zero's ??? want good wet road, dry road, snow and ice and play day off road performance. Wrangler's seem to be good at all but become DAMN noisy when they wear !
Should we read anything into it that LR seam to be using Scorpions as standard now or is it just a price thing for them?
Pricing and retaining as much margin as possible without compromising the ride and performance of the D3
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| 9th Nov 2005 9:53 pm |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Martin wrote:scorpio wrote:I was getting the same economy as you in my 05 spec but I now have a 06 spec and have seen a big jump in fuel economy I dont know why.
Same manufacturer/type of tyres?
Hi Martin
exactly the same make of tyres Pirelli, so that is no difference but I have noticed that it seems smoother and I dont have to push it so hard to get it moving before dropping back to about 1500/1700 revs.
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| 9th Nov 2005 10:17 pm |
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simon
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scorpio wrote:Martin wrote:scorpio wrote:I was getting the same economy as you in my 05 spec but I now have a 06 spec and have seen a big jump in fuel economy I dont know why.
Same manufacturer/type of tyres?
Hi Martin
exactly the same make of tyres Pirelli, so that is no difference but I have noticed that it seems smoother and I dont have to push it so hard to get it moving before dropping back to about 1500/1700 revs.
Engine mapping then... can we find out for sure ?
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| 9th Nov 2005 10:19 pm |
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Winger
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Location: UK
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What is truly amazing, given modern robotic manufacturing, is the staggering differences between D3s in a number of areas, fuel consumption and steering being amongst them. What is clear is that there is a big difference between the manual and automatic boxes: I did a bit of a test today - same journey, country roads, four times, twice in each direction, in two different D3s. The automatic did the whole trip at 7mpg less than the manual. I reckon that both performed well under the LR estimate, and that the fuel computer is not very accurate.
As has been said a number of times before, the only accurate way to assess fuel consumption is to ignore the onboard computer, and to a manual check.
I also think now that tyre pressure plays quite a big part, and that 33lbs in the front boots is too low.
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| 9th Nov 2005 10:30 pm |
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Gareth
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Does the 06 HSE still have Wranglers on th 19" rims?
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| 9th Nov 2005 10:31 pm |
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WOODY179
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Gareth wrote:Does the 06 HSE still have Wranglers on th 19" rims?
Mine has the Pirelli's on it, dont know whether it is luck of the draw though.
They do seem to be a lot quieter than the Goodyear's, but I have also noticed that the car seems to be more responsive. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
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| 9th Nov 2005 10:43 pm |
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blue meanie
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if it's of any interest my 06 SE manual has the Pirelli Scorpions on but over the
1400 miles I've done since new has averaged about 23mpg by the trip computer and because I've always been in the habit of doing empty to full fuel fill ups to check consumption, turns out the computer is only about 0.2mpg out overall. I would imagine mine is quite low because I do a lot of sub 2mile journeys, my D2 manual took about 5000mls before it crept over 25  and theeeeennn......???
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| 10th Nov 2005 9:29 am |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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just been on the rrsport site and they are claiming much better mpg for a tdv6 rrsport WHY IS THIS i nearly bought a rrsport maybe i should have 
shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 10th Nov 2005 7:46 pm |
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Slimer
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RRS is likely to be slightly better as it's a lighter vehicle. What MPG figures are Martins other crowd claiming? The End
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| 10th Nov 2005 8:06 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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Slimer wrote:RRS is likely to be slightly better as it's a lighter vehicle. What MPG figures are Martins other crowd claiming?
not exactly sure but i can remember the figure 32 mpg a few times, that is 12.5 mpg more than mine  unbeleavable.
god i really am  off with my mpg, spoke to the dealer today and they said that 19.5 was fair enough more than most are getting  i give up, mrs shawn says its a joke and i am beginning to agree
shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 11th Nov 2005 8:04 pm |
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Slimer
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'More than most are getting' Rubbish! In a V8 maybe not in a TDV6. Unless all your driving is in town you should be in the mid to high 20s
I average 28-30 on the daily commute and can easily get over that on a good run The End
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| 11th Nov 2005 8:10 pm |
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Slimer
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Get your dealer to lend you one of their cars for a week and see how it compares The End
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| 11th Nov 2005 8:11 pm |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Shawn I was getting the same MPG as you in my other vehicle since changing that has gone up around town by nearly 2 mpg with only 175 miles on the clock I expect it to get better as time goes by and will know more after a long journey I am doing tomorrow.
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| 11th Nov 2005 9:03 pm |
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