mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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pjgraham86 wrote:I'm just waiting for a call from a dealer with his best offer on a new XS - so I guess that he won't be able to do that until price increase is confirmed.
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As per earlier posts, all this stuff is confirmed and with dealers but is embargoed until July. Had a chat with a sensible dealer yesterday about discount, delivery times and 12my changes and as part of this available but secret info is cost of each model in line up but no extras price list has been issued yet
I would give them a call to sort it and get your place in the queue
Craig 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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promitheus
Member Since: 04 Jul 2009
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pjgraham86 wrote:...
Drive select gear operation
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Audio enhancements
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Any details on these, please, pdes?
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| 26th May 2011 2:32 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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Drive select gear operation = twiddly jag knob for p/r/n/d/s
Audio enhancements = standard DAB and all systems meant to be improved (meant nowt to me as I am not a hifi techie!) but LOGIC 7 is option on HSE whereas it was standard before. IPod integration (still an option on commercial which is a blow cos that is what I am looking at) is now via a standard iPod/iPhone USB cable and new systems in GS/XS/HSE support bluetooth music streaming.
HTH
Craig 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 26th May 2011 2:46 pm |
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pdes
Member Since: 09 Jan 2007
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promitheus wrote:
Any details on these, please, pdes?
Sorry, all I had was this in a mail. I have no other details. D4 HSE MY2015
8 Speed
Causeway Grey
Towpack
Surround cameras (joke!)
Vision assist
Extended roof rails
Rear Ladder
Remote heat
Prospeed sliders with steps
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| 26th May 2011 2:48 pm |
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jenzz
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mrandmrsh wrote:...but LOGIC 7 is option on HSE whereas it was standard before.
Strange. For the german market, HSEs have "High Audio" as standard, but "Premium Audio / Logic7" comes as a 1180€ extra in the 2011 list.
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| 26th May 2011 4:05 pm |
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Gareth
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Looks like the UK market is going that way too.
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| 26th May 2011 5:05 pm |
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nigelc
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For those of us who have to buy and pay for running our cars ourselves, does 255bhp SD6 mean thare will also be a lower power TD6 option for the GS but still with the 8 speed auto and stop-start? - I'm hoping for near 35MPG and sub 200 gms to entice me to replace my 54 plate D3. BTW, the current model is already at D3 manual output (244) so thats not much of an achievement. I prefer D4 over Taureg anyday but you cant ignore the VW's on paper economy - but is that just the baseline SE 3.0 - what about the Escape which is closer to D4 spec?
If I was to spring for a new 2012 D4, I'd be locked into whatever running costs are for 10-12 years, and who know where oil prices will be then - that's a completely different perspective to a 3 year business lease.
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| 26th May 2011 6:55 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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Unnecessary quote removed
No, commercial gets a more eco (relatively) 210 version but GS/XS/HSE all get 255 which had CO2 about 8% lower than 11MY if I remember correctly (I seem to think 225 but would need to check) - I recall it wasn't quite 10% cos it was the same drop as mpg and I needed to remember it to convince the mrs of the business case for the D4 rather than new kitchen/blah .....
C 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 26th May 2011 7:07 pm |
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nigelc
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Unnecessary quote removed
225 or under would make a big diffErence - its over 225 the VED ramps up sharply
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| 26th May 2011 7:47 pm |
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DG
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mrandmrsh wrote:but LOGIC 7 is option on HSE whereas it was standard before.
I called the LR factory and told them about this...they said "thanks for letting us know .....we thought it was just a rumour"  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th May 2011 8:01 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
Location: Holmfirth
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The 210bhp commercial emissions are 224, the 255 bhp gs etc. is 230g per whatever blah blah (not really into all this Eco sh&t) 
C 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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| 26th May 2011 8:05 pm |
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110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
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Shame, the current D4 is 244g. I was hoping that they would get it down to 225g to halve the car tax.
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| 26th May 2011 10:54 pm |
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Bristol Disco2
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DG wrote:mrandmrsh wrote:but LOGIC 7 is option on HSE whereas it was standard before.
I called the LR factory and told them about this...they said "thanks for letting us know .....we thought it was just a rumour"
If only everyone in life was as clever and well informed as you then this world would be a boring place
I would have thought that as a sitemod you would be little less aggressive and sarcastic to someone who is just trying to help. Obviously you know everything anyway.
I'm not arguing either way, just reporting what I had heard. Can't tell difference between logic 7 and standard stereo anyway!
James
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| 26th May 2011 11:15 pm |
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DG
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Bristol Disco2 wrote:
Obviously you know everything anyway.
When I have a certain document sat in front of me, then in respect of the context of this thread then ...yes , I do
I was initially trying to politely clarify and assist you where you could have been perhaps 'unintentionally' misled on specification in a sale scenario for the 2012MY  However, you chose to second guess the validity of my polite advice and make it into a competition over who knows the most or least.
Thanks for your support 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th May 2011 11:34 pm |
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mrandmrsh
Member Since: 25 Sep 2008
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Yeah right DG, what document
To the others - dealers have this document, those that want your business and are open will share relevant parts of its contents with you if you are serious.
Dealers that won't are either
a) Stupid and assume their customers are the same
b) Not telling staff the latest product information
c) Not really interested in the product
d) Playing 100% by the book and won't disseminate any information until July (in which case how can you order a new car from them before then?)
e) Not taking you seriously or don't trust you
I would consider a short call to local-ish dealers with an opener "I want to order a new Discovery, is there anyone there I can have a sensible discussion with about the 2012 model year spec" and see where you get.
My local dealer told me on Wednesday they didn't have the 12MY specs yet and if I ordered this month I would get 2011MY anyway and there's not expected to be "anything important" in 12MY anyway. So he is off the list and I went looking elsewhere. Some dealers (like my local) see cars as "another unit sold" whereas we are enthusiasts and interested in the details - the smart dealers sometimes get it but in my opinion (and not just LR dealers here) most don't and their knowledge of their product is appalling.
C 2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
2012 D4 Commercial 255 8-speed, Active diff, lots of extras on order, comes Sept - ORDER CANCELLED (isn't divorce expensive....?)
2008/08 D3 HSE G4 - part exchanged for the 110
1987 110 CSW with 200 Tdi (now gone)
2007/57 D3 TDV6 HSE - NOW GONE owned 1/oct/08 to 31/dec/09
2007 Seat Altea Freetrack4 170 tdi (wife's car, wife now gone!)
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