Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26779
Is think that the D5 with the new I6 engine will be a step change. Especially if they put the higher output version in it.
10th Jan 2021 7:37 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73131
DG wrote:
DSL wrote:
I like to look back at my car and inwardly smile, not sure that option is available.
Del, you drive a Skoda
And I smile every time I look back at her.
pjm-84 wrote:
Crumbs the Kodiaq is cost effective. Looks good but could I live with a 1.5 TSI.
I went for the 2.0 Tdi with the DSG box and it’s a fab combo. Gear changes are sooooooper smooth and it’s plenty punchy enough for my needs, plus I get high 50s mpg where I’d be lucky to get low 30s in my D3 or D4.
10th Jan 2021 8:21 am
Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
Location: London
Posts: 1022
What I find with odd with the D5 is how the basic model looks so ‘Basic’
Whilst the models with a bit of bling look quite 8)
I’ve not investigated enough to see what exactly the differences are, but they do certainly make a difference.
It’s almost like looking at the differences between a D3 and D4. It’s amazing what can be achieved with a few tweaks.Discovery 4 HSE
SDV6
2015
10th Jan 2021 8:52 am
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4197
I agree...I think the biggest difference is the choice of wheels... the basic models have the smaller 18? Inch wheels which always make the car look ‘undertyred’......the small wheels make the car look wrong...yet those fitted with the 20+ sized wheels look great apart from the .... 8)
I think it’s the visual size of the body....I think that with a few vehicles...the Maserati 3200 and even the quattroporte is the same... it looks wrong
10th Jan 2021 9:21 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73131
Agreed re it looking wrong. It’s not just the , it’s the whole package. I think the front is worse than the back.
At least I’m being polite, SWMBO describes it as “gopping”, a word she’s never uttered before.
PS Begs the question, how can LR get some models so right (last 2 FFRRs, RRS2 & New Deafner) and another so wrong?
10th Jan 2021 9:35 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
RRSTDV8 wrote:
Red Merle wrote:
Give the Defender the option of bigger boot and a proper tailgate and it’d be quite something 👍
The Defender has never had a split tailgate, why would they give it one now?
You Disco boys and your split tailgate. It's an obsession.
Not so much an “obsession”, as one of those high standards that some of us refuse to compromise on 👍2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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10th Jan 2021 9:44 am
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2608
DSL wrote:
DG wrote:
DSL wrote:
I like to look back at my car and inwardly smile, not sure that option is available.
Del, you drive a Skoda
And I smile every time I look back at her.
pjm-84 wrote:
Crumbs the Kodiaq is cost effective. Looks good but could I live with a 1.5 TSI.
I went for the 2.0 Tdi with the DSG box and it’s a fab combo. Gear changes are sooooooper smooth and it’s plenty punchy enough for my needs, plus I get high 50s mpg where I’d be lucky to get low 30s in my D3 or D4.
We have the combination in our VW T5 Cali. It suffers a little bit from eating its own EGR cooler but the problem is less the higher the cooler designation. Engine is certainly punchy making the old D240 in the Defender feel flat.
Well I showed the Wife the Kodiak this morning and she hated the looks. Was 50 / 50 on the Enyaq but quite rightly pointed out that the boot wasn't as big as the Discovery.
10th Jan 2021 9:44 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
RRSTDV8 wrote:
Series, yes. Defender? Maybe the 130. 90 and 110 were all side hung weren't they? A drop down pickup tail isn't the same as a Disco split .
What difference does it make if it was fitted to a Series, or Defender? For some of us, a side mounted tailgate is an utterly hopeless anachronism.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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10th Jan 2021 9:48 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
DSL wrote:
DG wrote:
Del, you drive a Skoda
And I smile every time I look back at her.
Why does a Skoda have a heated rear window? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
10th Jan 2021 9:48 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
I looked at so many cars when deciding to replace my D4. Not one member of my family liked the D5. Its a lovely drive but compromised in too many areas and the family hated how it wallowed. The closest replacement for me was the Defender, although I was unsure about the side opening rear door, but I would have bought one if the dealer order software hadn't failed
Anyway, I reevaluated what I needed and decided a LR with all its capability was OTT and I was trying to be a bit more environmentally friendly. I still need a big car for the family and our lifestyle but not one that can climb mountains and wade rivers. So I bought an XC90. Its close to the D4 in practicality, is really well packaged, beautifully built and super comfortable. For the few times I go off road it will be enough.
Interestingly I've not missed my D4 at all, lovely car that it was. Very few on here need or will ever use the capabilities of a LR. I used to when I had the construction business but I haven't for many years. How many on here regularly use the terrain response, low ratio or tow 3.5t? Very few I suspect and that was my thinking why I wanted a change.D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
10th Jan 2021 10:46 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
RRSTDV8 wrote:
Series, yes. Defender? Maybe the 130. 90 and 110 were all side hung weren't they? A drop down pickup tail isn't the same as a Disco split .
I’ve sat on numerous Series/Defender drop down tailgates. They’d have been fixed cab or open roof versions i suppose.
The ones with a hard top not canvas) canopy were effectively a split tailgate. Not exactly the same as a D3/4 but serve the same purpose. The too section providing shelter from the rain or sun.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
10th Jan 2021 10:57 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
“Not so much an “obsession”, as one of those high standards that some of us refuse to compromise on 👍”
2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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10th Jan 2021 11:10 am
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
10th Jan 2021 11:50 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
10th Jan 2021 12:03 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Farmer Chalk wrote:
I agree...I think the biggest difference is the choice of wheels... the basic models have the smaller 18? Inch wheels which always make the car look ‘undertyred’......the small wheels make the car look wrong...yet those fitted with the 20+ sized wheels look great apart from the .... 8)
I think it’s the visual size of the body....I think that with a few vehicles...the Maserati 3200 and even the quattroporte is the same... it looks wrong
19s
Though I eventually fitted FFRR 21s
23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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