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Ah yes I see the P word ...fair play ...the petrols don't have the pull of the diesel for sure.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
21st Mar 2019 3:28 pm
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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LT wrote:
they really fly. 8)
So do the cranks ...allegedly 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
21st Mar 2019 3:29 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23823
Will be a good excuse to buy a SDV8 FFRR if that happens.
I fancy riding the torque wave in one of those while I suss out if the new Defender suits me.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
21st Mar 2019 3:35 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Reading a lot here about throwing Discos into bends, that’s not what the car is for, neither is brilliant but you have a better chance of staying out a field with the 5.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Mar 2019 7:59 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Credit, where credit’s due, the 4’s steering is better weighted with greater feedback.
The Fatty has less weight than the ‘5 and is lower, but I’d be hard pushed to say that it handles any better than the ‘4. What it does do is “smooth and luxurious”. I’m not really sure where sharper handling came to have much relevance to Disco and Fatty ownership though 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
21st Mar 2019 8:02 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
I was surprised how light the 5s steering was when I first test drove it.
If it’s a LR to throw into bends then it’s the Velar all day for me, stick it in Sport and Dynamic setting and it will give boy racers a run for their money, even my 4 pot. It doesn’t sound pretty but it shifts.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Mar 2019 8:36 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13541
If you want a Land Rover that you can throw down a road like a 20 year old in a hot hatch, you need the RRS. It's the only one that has proper engines and handles properly too.
Stick the RRS in dynamic on Terrain Response, the steering weights up a touch, the dampers stiffen (as do the active anti roll bars), the gearbox sharpens up and it covers ground like a sports car. Sure, it still weighs 2.5 tonnes but you wouldn't know it from the driver's seat.
And it still tows 3.5 tonnes, has low range and goes off road properly...Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
21st Mar 2019 9:24 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10441
This is the best LR product to eat hot hatches.
In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
21st Mar 2019 9:35 pm
RRSTDV8
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Posts: 13541
Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
21st Mar 2019 9:57 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Nah I’d still take a Velar SVA any day, RRS still too lofty in comparison.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Mar 2019 10:10 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Mines in for its 48,000 service tomorrow, there’s a fair possibility that I might be clocking up about 200 miles in a Velar of theirs tomorrow... Not really my thing, but I’d be very happy to take one out for a day 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
21st Mar 2019 10:19 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
It’s not for everyone, if you’re prepared for a more car like driving position you’ll get on fine with it.
At the moment it’s the only car in the range I’d have again.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Mar 2019 10:33 pm
RRSTDV8
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Location: Here
Posts: 13541
If you don't want the lofty driving position, you may as well just buy a proper performance estate car...the Velar SVA really competes with the RS6 etc anyway, not the RRS SVR.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
21st Mar 2019 10:37 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
Never said it competes with the SVR, I just said the Velar SVA would be my choice.
Lofty driving position doesn’t bother me but if I was choosing a LR based purely on backroad fun it would be the Velar.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
21st Mar 2019 11:05 pm
RRSTDV8
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Fair enough. If that was the sole criteria then it would certainly be in the mix for me too. I do like the lofty driving position, however, so I'd probably take a while to get used to "sitting on the ground".
Certainly, whenever I'm in SWMBO's Octavia, I feel like I'm sat in a hole in the ground. Vans and trucks are sooo big and oppressive from down there. Up in the lofty seat of my RRS, vans etc. are on equal terms and not nearly so imposing. I can see why some people find SUVs/4x4 intimidating - something that I never felt before my first RRS, strangely.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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...fair play ...the petrols don't have the pull of the diesel for sure.
