Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 796
What the X5 needs IMHO is a black pack to tone done the grill if you order a dark coloured car. Obviously, silver or white would hide the bling chrome monster but I would want one in dark blue or grey.2014MY Discovery
14th Mar 2019 9:29 am
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1359
If you go for the D5 and carry passengers regularly in the middle row, you’ll get complaints. Thanks to the countless issues with our Landmark, I’ve spent quite a lot of time with loan D5’s and without exception rear passengers complain about how uncomfortable and flat the seats are.
A couple of weeks ago I used my Land Rover Experience voucher and as I had a couple of guests, I sat in the back of their D5. The complaints previously are justified. The seats are awful, and of course there’s no “stadium” seating as in the D3/D4.
The seats are so low down that there’s no leg support.
14th Mar 2019 9:44 am
Pollski
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
Yes, the X7 looks like it could well carry the replacement D4 can much better. Just spec'd one up at £93k .... My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
My11 HSE - 2011- 2016. Stornoway Grey
14th Mar 2019 11:13 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50979
Over on the D5 forum there are ex BMW X5 fans moving over to the D5
Member Since: 22 Jan 2011
Location: Kent
Posts: 149
I'll await to see their comments on the Faults and Fixes page in the foreseeable future then My16 HSE Landmark - 2016 - Current. Indus Silver
My11 HSE - 2011- 2016. Stornoway Grey
14th Mar 2019 12:00 pm
lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
Posts: 2232
Would say Landrovers in general suffer less depreciation, though not sure that is case with D5, but still should be better than the Mercs and BMW.
Having had a couple of D5's on loan certainly did not think finish was as good or durable as in D4 and then the questions remain over their engines, especially if looking to keep more than the warranty period.
At least Landrover have unlimited mileage volvo only 60 k or 80k for 4 yrs if that is a factor. Volvo has free mapping updates and free volvo on call service if serviced at main dealer after third yr.D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
14th Mar 2019 12:05 pm
110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 796
nigel207 wrote:
If you go for the D5 and carry passengers regularly in the middle row, you’ll get complaints. Thanks to the countless issues with our Landmark, I’ve spent quite a lot of time with loan D5’s and without exception rear passengers complain about how uncomfortable and flat the seats are.
A couple of weeks ago I used my Land Rover Experience voucher and as I had a couple of guests, I sat in the back of their D5. The complaints previously are justified. The seats are awful, and of course there’s no “stadium” seating as in the D3/D4.
The seats are so low down that there’s no leg support.
Your comment about the middle row seats is getting to me as I have two tall teenagers....
Interestingly the dealer I was in two days is taking a long time working out a price....not heard back from them.2014MY Discovery
15th Mar 2019 10:43 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14482
When I went to look at a D5 I went with my daughters 16 and 11 at the time. Both were about 5'6''.
This was the grand reveal so lots of bods from LR Solihull were there. Both girls sit in the back and both commented on how odd / uncomfortable the seats felt. One of the LR bods said they were exactly the same as the D3/4. My eldest said they weren't and asked him how many miles he had done in the back of a D3? A few hundred he said, well my daughter said she'd done over 100,000 in the back and the D5 seats were not the same and not as comfortable. Also my youngest, who often sits in the third row, got into the back of the D5 and commented how it wasn't as easy as the D3 and that the view was rubbish.
It was their input as valued users, the boot shape and lack of split tail gate that told me the D5 wasn't for me. Interestingly, I know of one parent at school who changed their D5 for a D4 because her kids found the seats uncomfortable. However, I'm sure D5 owners don't have this issue but I thought i'd just share my penny's worth.D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
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BAS FBH control
15th Mar 2019 10:55 am
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
You need to try it yourself, they are different to the D4 for sure.
I had a couple of typical Australians with strong opinions in the back for 2,000 miles around France and they had a lot to say but not about the seats!
15th Mar 2019 10:57 am
Someone-Gone
Member Since: 21 Dec 2015
Location: Gone
Posts: 5117
Look if you don’t want one or the price puts you off, no problem, but there’s pages on individual posts of how people don’t like this or that. A lot of needless negativity mostly from people who’ve never driven one or just had one for a day etc. It’s getting a bit like the Brexit moan. It is what it is, no need to keep repeating yourselves.
15th Mar 2019 12:31 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
It’s not a great photo, but it might help. I took it when I was measuring up one of the D5’s that I had on loan:
2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
15th Mar 2019 1:17 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
It is what it is, either like or loath it, it suits your needs or it doesn’t. There’s no I’m trying to want one, either do or you don’t.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
15th Mar 2019 1:20 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
I neither like it or loath it. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
15th Mar 2019 1:29 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
My son is 6'2" he found the D4 seats ok, but he much prefers the Cayenne seats which aren't stadium but there is a lot more room in the Cayenne than a D4. Me I don't give a toss because I'll not be back there DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
15th Mar 2019 1:56 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
I would consider one again but I’d go 2.0, I was pleasantly surprised with how nimble it felt compared to the 3.0.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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