DG
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Location: The Gaff
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I've had mine 6 months now and after 2 D3's and 2 D4's I don't regret a thing. It hasn't missed a beat and is a great drive. Never look back 
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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It’s funny you should say that J77.
The current loaner is an 18 plate, 306bhp, td6 with 1959 on the clock and it’s showing just 6150 miles to the next oil change. That’s the very newest version of the motor and the next oil change will be pretty much only half way to the first scheduled service. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 24th Aug 2018 1:17 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
 
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Like DG I love mine. The 2L engine is a gem and plenty powerful enough. No oil dilution issues either. Just had its first service at nigh on 19K miles when the service nags started and requiring a service notice at just over 21K miles.
The tailgate is fine (even the daggers) but agree it doesn't go low enough when loading or when a tired dog struggles to jump in. Sloped load space a bit weird but only noticeable when the dog cage is in it.
Piano black plastics are very easy to scratch and so are the black plastics on the exterior too. Anything other than a fresh lambswool mitt will mark it.
The water based paints are very prone to scratches too so avoid black !! Mine (black) is covered in tiny scratches (plus some worse ones from when a van hit me!!).
But overall its a great drive and bloody massive inside.
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| 24th Aug 2018 1:52 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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If you carry rear passengers there's another aspect that you might want to consider
jeepmadmike:
The high floor / low seat / high waste line / small window seating in the back of the '5 is pretty normal in a lot of modern saloons, hatchbacks and estates, but the '4 was never built that way, especially with the ultra high roof and stadium seating in the '4.
Although some passengers may not want to mention it, you might want to check that car sickness isn't a problem first - especially if you have children that aren't fully grown. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 24th Aug 2018 4:17 pm |
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DG
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Strange how only you appear to be experiencing all these issues RM 
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| 24th Aug 2018 4:29 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Equally strange that you're not! 
Hey, the opinions of those that like them and those that don't are equally valid and I’m sure the OP will appreciate a full cross section of replies
Besides, why should I worry? I get to hand “mine” back in the morning!  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 24th Aug 2018 4:35 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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Quote:Equally strange that you're not!
Nor any other owner I can find
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| 24th Aug 2018 5:35 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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That’ll be selective deafness and eyesight then DG  2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 24th Aug 2018 5:38 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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We all have it to varying degrees
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| 24th Aug 2018 6:32 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 24th Aug 2018 6:42 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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I don't think the concerns you have would be deal breakers maybe the doors.
Having spent weeks driving the D5 I would have one but sadly the boot space isn't as big as the D4 so we cant fit everything in plus they don't offer a petrol anymore and I don't really want a diesel given the issues.
It is very different to the D4 from a practicality stand point not just load space but for storage generally and through load capacity if you need to carry stuff with the boot open like me you cant do so without the number plate and lights facing upwards which could be questioned legally. I would say have a another very close look and if it can carry everything you need then consider, its got closer competition than the D4 had too so make sure you test the XC90, Q7 and GLS. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 24th Aug 2018 7:35 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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They still offer a petrol but only the 2.0 300hp ingenium, apparently it’s a good enough engine.
I like the D5, not sure if I mentioned it before but as with my Velar it’s LRs quality/reliability that lets the product down and dealers who don’t seem interested.
RM - That sounds about right. You ain’t driving it properly, you need to change your style 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 24th Aug 2018 8:16 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
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forgot about the 2.0l I kind of ignore it as I tow heavy a lot with the D4 fully loaded plus a roof box. I might be being a bit old school but not sure I'd fancy the 2.0L in that scenario even with the HP it has. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 24th Aug 2018 8:28 pm |
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jeepmadmike
Member Since: 18 Jan 2014
Location: Devon
Posts: 270
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RDR wrote:I don't think the concerns you have would be deal breakers maybe the doors.
Having spent weeks driving the D5 I would have one but sadly the boot space isn't as big as the D4 so we cant fit everything in plus they don't offer a petrol anymore and I don't really want a diesel given the issues.
It is very different to the D4 from a practicality stand point not just load space but for storage generally and through load capacity if you need to carry stuff with the boot open like me you cant do so without the number plate and lights facing upwards which could be questioned legally. I would say have a another very close look and if it can carry everything you need then consider, its got closer competition than the D4 had too so make sure you test the XC90, Q7 and GLS.
The loss of load space is the biggest issue for me...
Wait for the new defender or it’s the new Jeep Wrangler when it lands in the uk🧐 MY14 post man pat van
70series land cruiser
1947 willys jeep
Hobby 670 motor home
And lots of other stuff in my shed, on my driveway or abandoned in the village
Several VW T5's
Mitsubishi outlander
And a Suzuki X90... Only drive that at night
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| 24th Aug 2018 10:26 pm |
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galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
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get a newer d4 plenty low mileage about,,,,,,,,,,before its to late
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| 24th Aug 2018 10:27 pm |
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