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29th May 2017 8:07 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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My mistake
Update: I still have the windscreen price sticker for the demo D5 that the deal lent me for 5 days while mine was in for work. The price tag of £70,923 is still stuck in my head And even at that price, it still had a plastic dash top and door cappings
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29th May 2017 9:02 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
Theres no conspiracy theory as to why there is D5s on the used site, there's nothing odd about it, people reading to much into it, they ain't even at a good price.
Some buy then realise its not the car for them as I did with the DS, doesn't make it a sales disaster just not the car for me. Also the new engines are looming, happened with the DS most waited for the new engine and then they started flying out the showroom.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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29th May 2017 9:05 am
Discofixer
Member Since: 23 Jul 2016
Location: South
Posts: 35
Morning the incentive to swap demos and courtesy cars is trying to reach reg targets jlr have a problem child with the d5 we are having problems selling them too expensive? Questionable looks? Too soft/yummy mummy we are just waiting to be allowed to discount them then see used values soften on the upside all of you with late d4 especially landmarks are going to retain good value we have awaiting list for them widely accepted as the last true landrover
29th May 2017 9:07 am
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
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Well when a Disco is priced at £70k+ you have to be off your head to pay that.
I have an SE spec, LED headlights, leathers, electric seats etc, just under £54k inc options, mainly the paint, it's nice spec. This for me is about as much as the car is worth, IMO HSE and above ain't worth the money for not a lot more kit above SE.
Ideally for me I would've preferred entry level S spec with LED or even xenon lights and 3.0 engine would've suited me perfectly. My D4 was entry level SE, only options were privacy glass and Xenons, it done the same job as the more expensive HSE/Lux cars.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
29th May 2017 9:14 am
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
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Red Merle wrote:
Having tested the D5 off road (in some very tricky stuff) fairly intensively, it's a hugely capable car. However, the thick pillars, the rounded shape and the inability to place the very rounded and completely out of sight front corners tend to outweigh the advantages of the loss of a couple of hundred kilos (V6 vs V6) when the going gets very tough.
The best way to see the corners and front when in a tight spot is to use the camera if fitted.
29th May 2017 3:56 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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I'd been using those quite a lot and they're great when the going is relatively easy and you can guide the car slowly past obstacles and along narrow tracks.
However, when you're having to swing around a 120 degree blind switchback, coming on to a 1 in 3 hill surfaced with large chunks of semi polished wet rock, with mud and lose rocks, with very spare room next to a vertical soil and root bank around 4 to 5 feet high and needing to hold the revs at at least 2,500-3,000rpm, to avoid losing traction and momentum, it all happens very quickly and cameras (especially mud splattered ones) are not as much use as you'd think!
Seeing the corner of the bonnet would have been really nice
29th May 2017 6:35 pm
defector
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: Greater Manchester
Posts: 1476
Gerry Mcgovern is the tailor , the D5 is the emporers new clothes.
Who will be the child thats shouts ......................................
29th May 2017 6:57 pm
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1258
Well if "Discofixer's " statement is close to the mark? .Then LandRover have a problem as they have chucked shed loads of money at it to me is overpriced as now on RR territory .
So would they redesign or drop it ?
Other manufacturers have now caught up to a degree with what they can offer and even cheaper and better on the eye?
And they have stated that they are leaving lower end market to others.
Sad to say at moment I for one am on my last Disco due to what's out there even to a point of changing brands also no way am I'm paying the snob tax on top as it's over £40k.
29th May 2017 7:58 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
They need to drop the price, I thought I was mad at £54k but when I see others spending £65k, £70k, £75k on a Discovery there is nothing on it that makes worthy of such a price tag, LR are getting away with it people are happy to pay the cash and getting very little for it IMO.
It's part of the reason my next car won't be a LR product, I enjoy my D5 despite what others say about it but it's crazy money and not worth it, the DS I think there is better out there in that class especially now the new XC60 is out, excellent spec under the magic £40k. The Evoque is too small and the other two RRs are out of budget.
So it's XC60 or V90CC for me23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
29th May 2017 8:15 pm
PeanutBob
Member Since: 24 Oct 2006
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 669
In many ways Land Rover is similar to Thorntons chocolates in that they want to penetrate every market there is. As a result the Thorntons brand became devalued both in price and customer perception. The Land Rover brand is becoming similarly devalued in customer perception, but not in price yet...
Years ago there were three vehicles, Defender, Discovery and the Range Rover, all highly regarded . Now, it's a muddle of expensive SUV type vehicles, with the only really special vehicle left being the FFRR, closely followed by the RRS. But a huge success in terms of sales across the range with substantial market penetration, but less allure.
29th May 2017 8:37 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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LR are attempting to follow the German model. VAG and BMW have ranges that are just different sized and priced versions of the same thing. I think LR have seen this and think it's the way to go. Sadly, they have missed the point that the Germans cover a wide price range. LR's prices start at "a tad pricey for what you get" and go up to "Really? For a Discovery?".Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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29th May 2017 9:51 pm
Nikki
Member Since: 10 Mar 2015
Location: Melbourne
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Location: Liskeard
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No, it's a single turbo.
30th May 2017 4:46 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
LR are attempting to follow the German model. VAG and BMW have ranges that are just different sized and priced versions of the same thing.
I've never liked that. I've stopped trying to differentiate VW products and just think of them as various sizes of Golf, while BMW's just remind me of a uniform, with the persons' rank/status "sewn" on to the boot lid. Yuck!
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