Nick H
Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Southampton
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It's nice 8) the toys are good and it does drive well but alas no.
For a few reasons:
-Looks too much like a RR Sport which for me personally loses some individuality
-Misses the whole point of the ability to bridge effortlessly between brilliant practicality and great refinement
-Boot space is reduced by the design which means less for camping gear etc
-I sat in the back and agree about the leg comfort and lack of thigh support
-Really notice the absence of the stadium seating
-I dislike the activity platform, it doesn't look very robust
It will be a late D4 for me next 
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 22nd Mar 2017 3:13 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Having used a current RRS as a loan car, complete with pointless 21" wheels, over the last couple of days, does it share the fidgety ride with that car?
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| 22nd Mar 2017 7:30 pm |
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dunton10
Member Since: 23 Dec 2006
Location: SUTTON COLDFIELD, WEST MIDS
Posts: 213
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my car had to go in for a bit of warranty work today. Opted for a ride to work rather than tie up a courtesy car on the car park all day.
As there were two of us to drop off the driver said he would get something a bit larger than the usual VW Uppie! Turns up in a 17 plate D5 with the 2.0 litre engine.
I purposely opted to sit in the back as previously when I looked at the car in the showroom I thought the rear seat squabs looked flat and very short and low.
I was proved right, the comfort was awful and Im not that long legged.
Might be ok for kids but I dont think i;ll be paying the price asked for something that sits two in comfort.
reminded me from many years ago of the rear seats in my shogun.designed more for folding flat than for sitting in.
Must admit at first I also didnt like the rear view but the exterior is growing on me.
engine was very quiet though and the interior well kitted out. Currently 2015 D4 SE Tech, Corris Grey
RLD Protector, led interior lights, timed climate, towing equipment
Previously
2006 D3 S
2001 TD5
1996 Shogun LWB
1989 Range Rover TDVM
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| 22nd Mar 2017 8:51 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
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smokietn wrote:J77 wrote:Advanced orders have only just started to be delivered this month, the odd car in February, but most have been dealer stock, I should have mine next Saturday, my salesmans been spot on with delivery estimates. Some are delayed due to the stolen engines, some due to the electrically deployable tow bar.
If the tow bar is electrically deployable does this mean any device I wish to tow has to be taken to a dealer to be programmed so that the tow bar will accept it else it won't come out to play. Why complicate things for the sake of it or is that the reason Defenders are going up in value so fast?
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It's a normal tow bar, does all things a tow bar should but is tucked up underneath the rear of the car and drops down into position electronically when required and you can tow whatever you like whenever you like. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 22nd Mar 2017 10:42 pm |
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Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7661
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My L405 FFRR is is for warranty work, and I have been given a D5 HSE as a loaner. Here are my thoughts/comparisons.
When I had previously seen a D5 in the dealership my reaction was 'Meh'. However, having driven one for a couple of days, I quite like it. It helps that it is a HSE with lots of toys!
I like the infortainment system, a marked improvement on the previous system that was about 10 years out of date. I see what people mean about the rear seats, but I suppose they are OK for kids. Rear visibility is compromised by the middle row centre seat headrest, and the large C pillar. Car handles and drives well, and is a nice place to be. The lane assist warning system is nicely implemented.
An ex-Disco3 / FFRR / I-Pace owner ......
..... now pootling around in a Porker EV.
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| 26th Mar 2017 4:52 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Considering that the Disco is the closest thing that LR now build to an expedition vehicle, ought we to expect a middle row that is able to cater with more than just kids for our £45,000 to £70,000 ish? Just a thought.
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| 26th Mar 2017 5:07 pm |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
Location: Deepest, Dankest, Darkest, Dingiest......Le Halifax, West Yorkshire...with strong links to Ireland
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How many others are seeing, trying & agreeing with the rear seat thing...
Seating comfort is a basic feature....what the heck were LR thinking about...?
Seven seats maybe...but what's the point if at least three are going to be comfortable for average sized adults ?
No amount of gizmos to play with compensates for this.
The other thread about towing issues is also alarming fo those who need to tow. BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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| 26th Mar 2017 6:03 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Having my loan car from LR Accident Management delivered in the morning; they said it will definitely be a "Discovery", but they can't tell me any more 
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| 26th Mar 2017 6:43 pm |
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Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
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Might be a Discovery Sport 
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| 27th Mar 2017 7:40 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Noooo!!! 
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| 27th Mar 2017 7:54 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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And the answer is:
A surprisingly careworn, silver D4 HSE, with every wheel scuffed and quite a few battle scars! 
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| 27th Mar 2017 2:26 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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...so, better than a Sport or D5 then? 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
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| 27th Mar 2017 9:35 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Yep!
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| 28th Mar 2017 5:08 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
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Dropped it back at the dealer's place today and got back in my own one - it's just like putting a favourite pair of comfy shoes on (I must be getting old!).
Plenty of D5's there, though the solitary one in the showroom hasn't moved an inch, while everything around it has Interestingly, an immaculate 11 plate FL2 and a similar condition 64 plate Defender in the showroom came and went within 2 days or so 
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| 29th Mar 2017 6:27 pm |
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Paul J.
Member Since: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Leafy Cheshire
Posts: 7661
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Courtesy car has gone back to the dealers.
I quite liked it and could get on with it. Those who have bought one will certainly enjoy it.
An ex-Disco3 / FFRR / I-Pace owner ......
..... now pootling around in a Porker EV.
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| 29th Mar 2017 7:51 pm |
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