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MrH
 


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I hate these threads. My 2010 now has 103000 miles on the clock and although I still have Warranty Direct cover the time is coming that they no doubt will say it's too old or too high mileage, so I have the quandary, do I suck it and see, or sell her before I have no cover Confused

I really dont want to sell her as other than a minor oil leak and a split hose she's never let us down and if I did sell her I'd end up buying a second-hand "whatever" where I don't have a scubby as to it's history plus it won't be a Disco3/4. But the risk is that if it went bang, I'd end up without a D4 and just scrap value to put towards a replacement - hmmm, thank guys for once again reminding me of this joyous prospect Laughing
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Well you wouldn't want an easy life. Whistle Whistle

Re warranty cover with WD you should have no problem getting engine, tranny & drive train cover up to 10 (or is it 13 Confused ) years or 160k miles, at the start of the warranty. When does your policy expire? Phone them up well ahead of time and haggle for 3 years cover at highest level you can. Thumbs Up
  

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They are a lot rarer than you think, believe me, other manufacturers would be tipping off/alerting the press if it was anything other than normal.

(I know describe normal)
 Peter  
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MrH
 


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DSL wrote:
Re warranty cover with WD you should have no problem getting engine, tranny & drive train cover up to 10 (or is it 13 Confused ) years or 160k miles, at the start of the warranty. When does your policy expire? Phone them up well ahead of time and haggle for 3 years cover at highest level you can. Thumbs Up


I got another year or so on the current policy. They only gave me 2 years renewal last time because their computer system wouldn't allow them to take into account my new annual mileage being around a quarter or what it used to be, so it's forecast put me over the limit for the lever of cover, but I know I'll still be within the threshold at renewal.

Plus for this reason as tempting as going to an indy for servicing is to reduce costs, I still go for Dealer servicing at the mo, particularly because nowadays it's not 2-3 times a year due to mileage, but just based on the calendar months.
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petersw wrote:
They are a lot rarer than you think, believe me, other manufacturers would be tipping off/alerting the press if it was anything other than normal.

(I know describe normal)


I know, we only ever hear and take account of the bad things in general, but its that little devil in the back of your (my) head which just chips away whenever I read another new thread on this subject. Laughing

I also know it's not just LR, I had a brand new V8 Audi S4 Quattro some years back and it put a valve through the piston head on the first day at 172miles on the clock, Censored happens. You just hope it never happens to oneself.
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DG wrote:
This list of recent payouts from Warrantywise is interesting although its not specific on vehicle age nor what period this covers ...select LR in the dropdown

http://www.warrantywise.co.uk/authorised-repairs/

Also interesting to compare other marque repair costs


Wouldn't want a Porsche would you
.puts a few things into perspective when we think the D is a timebomb
Just drive em and enjoy them .Fix em when it breaks nothing is 100% reliable is it ?
  
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Robert SausageTrousers
 


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It's easy to become paranoid when you're a member of a forum like this, but the reality is that it's a small proportion of discos that are suffering this problem, every time I'm out on the road I see discos everywhere, the vast majority of them will be absolutely fine, don't let the paranoia ruin your enjoyment of what is a lovely car, just make sure you prepare properly and get covered by a decent warranty!

Ultimately, they're an expensive luxury car, same as a 911 which can suffer from IMS problems etc, if you're not in a position to deal with the expense of them going wrong then they're probably not the right car for you!
  
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Daft question but do Jaaaaaaaaaaaaag 3.0l lumps suffer this issue?
   
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daftlad
 


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Been some crank failures I believe
  
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The other thing to note is the warranty book allocation for JLR has stayed fairly static for years at around £540m, despite a huge increase in units manufactured. That should be an indicator that reliability is generally getting better ...but it's also an indicator that with 1/2 a billion floating around maybe they could be a little more generous to people who suffer this issue out of warranty.
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DSL wrote:
Daft question but do Jaaaaaaaaaaaaag 3.0l lumps suffer this issue?


The Landrover has a different sump design to the Jag. It's different to combat extreme angles encountered in Off roading so ......
 Peter  
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so...... ? so What ?

I think the Jag unit still has the baffle plate. So I don't think its likely it will help lubing the crank
  
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I'm not an engine designer.

Thanks for certifying a different sump design makes no difference.
 Peter  
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The Jaaaag has a wide, shallow sump, whereas the LR has a narrow, deep sump Thumbs Up
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MrH
 


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The fact the sump differs doesn't affect the issue. By all accounts the issue is with the bearing shells coming loose. If the sump was the issue and causing failures due to lack of oil we'd see more Crank failures whilst off roading when there are steep approach and departure angles than when on road, but most if not all I know off are experiencing failures during normal road use, so IMHO the difference in sumps between a Jag and an LR engine is a wild goose chase. It's got to be down to a design flaw with the bearings, and JLR are attempting to keep it low profile.
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