Member Since: 20 Feb 2013
Location: Brabant
Posts: 67
Driving to Nordkapp
I am considering to compete in the 2017 Scan Covery Trail, a Dutch 8-day, 7000km navigation tour from The Netherlands across Scandinavia to the top of Norway, Nordkapp, and back .
This year almost half of the competitors had problems, especially the diesel-fuel because of the low temperatures: 43 degrees below zero.
Any tips on how to prepare my Discovery 3?
11th Jan 2016 3:54 pm
Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
Location: London
Posts: 1022
When I headed up that way a few years ago I made sure I had nearly new winter tyres, dropped a bit of coolant and added some neat anti freeze to make sure that was up to scratch and added a winter diesel additive frequently to try and stop the diesel waxing up. I was told to add it when the engine was at running temperature because it mixes much better. I followed this advise and had no diesel freezing issues.
Probably not the most thorough of preperations but we made it there and back OK Discovery 4 HSE
SDV6
2015
11th Jan 2016 6:35 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73134
Nordic spec winter tyres would be a must, studded or not. Also a block heater is standard in much of Swedish Lapland.
Not from experience, I like to go to North Cape when it's above freezing. Just.
11th Jan 2016 6:40 pm
dlw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Wellingborough
Posts: 374
Petrol (benzine) diesel mix
11th Jan 2016 7:00 pm
Pinin01
Member Since: 20 Feb 2013
Location: Brabant
Posts: 67
Oke, thanks for the tips.
Would like to know how much petrol I'll have to mix with a full tank of diesel.
I'll be needing a roofrack and a winch and I would really like the A-bar with it, like this one
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..... anyone???
12th Jan 2016 5:33 pm
dlw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Wellingborough
Posts: 374
I have heard about a litre to a tank, but it would better to check some of the Russian forums as its more common there, I have only thought about using it when I was using bio-diesel in a previous car because freezes closer to 0. Here it mentions upto 20% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_diesel_fuel
12th Jan 2016 7:49 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2929
But in the same feature it states that:
Since the 1990s car makers began selling only direct injection diesel engines - these will not withstand any gasoline portions in the fuel as the high pressure in the injection device will ignite the gasoline early on possibly destroying the injectors.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
12th Jan 2016 7:52 pm
dlw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Wellingborough
Posts: 374
Missed that bit, but it looks like its possible to buy the correct fuel in country where needed.
12th Jan 2016 7:53 pm
Sloss
Member Since: 18 Aug 2013
Location: Aberdeenish
Posts: 1691
waterbuoy wrote:
But in the same feature it states that:
Since the 1990s car makers began selling only direct injection diesel engines - these will not withstand any gasoline portions in the fuel as the high pressure in the injection device will ignite the gasoline early on possibly destroying the injectors.
Always interesting when people talk as if the gasoline is still a finite element in the tank - it isn't - all it does is raise the Cetane of the diesel and reduces the propensity to waxing. Too much and it may well go bang!
I remember building fires under Lorry diesel tanks to warm things up at 2 am to get wagons started to take spraying tar to site for a 7am start. Student days but I got to drive 30 ton 8 wheelers with no power steering - let go, or mess up the wheel on a corner and fingers will get broken!
Now on the coldest days our 18 Te hoss Lorry just starts - smoky for a while but at least it's running!Stew,
2010 D4 gone but I really loved it
Went back to Merc - C350 AMG
12th Jan 2016 8:37 pm
dlw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Wellingborough
Posts: 374
Russians are the best at making cold diesel work as it gets to -40°C if not lower in some places.
12th Jan 2016 8:51 pm
Sloss
Member Since: 18 Aug 2013
Location: Aberdeenish
Posts: 1691
Yes, I'm thinking in tank heaters, insulated, heat traced pipework and a block heater might be the way Stew,
2010 D4 gone but I really loved it
Went back to Merc - C350 AMG
12th Jan 2016 9:18 pm
dlw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2014
Location: Wellingborough
Posts: 374
Is that just for driving in Scotland
Have a look at the Bio-diesel crew as this a standard feature when running it
12th Jan 2016 9:21 pm
Davethegeo
Member Since: 01 Oct 2015
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 919
I'm assuming that the correct diesel is supplied in countries that need Winter Diesel. I worked in Northern Alberta in the winter and we never had a problem with diesel. No special additives needed. Mind you, we never switched the engines off.D1 300Tdi - gone
D2 Td5 ES (Alive remapped...mmm) - sadly gone
D4 2012 SDV6 XS - Stolen
D4 2014 SDV6 HSE - Shiny
12th Jan 2016 9:55 pm
gordons
Member Since: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 191
Ever had your brake fluid freeze! best change that..........
Think about rubber seals, leave your fuel cover open or attach a mechanism for opening it when frozen, the disco push to open is not a good idea.D3 SE MY55 [gone]
D3 HSE MY59
12th Jan 2016 10:10 pm
grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6415
lots of silicone on rubbers and fuel latch prevents from freezing no issues, working FBH with remote helps as well tested in minus 25+ for number of days no problemo
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