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urhunden wrote:
With a -08 Disco, do I have to update the D3 module.... No
What is then the difference with an updated D3 and a new D4 module.... Iv already told you the differences ..
Is the D3 module in the boot a straight replacement with a D4 module? ... No .. The connector and mounting are different

Could you supply the cable that updates the D4 screen or do you have a part number? No .. There is no part number .. It's something that is made up


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I would start another topic if you want to Persue this conversation .. As its gone away from the original posters topic ( sorry Mick )
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Using another thread on D3 to D4 bluetooth modules.
  
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All fitted Thumbs Up

Thanks to Mick for his phone support Bow down



And working as it should so far









Not been for a spin yet to test the positioning speed etc, but it has located where it is, so looks to be ok.

Map software is



Not sure how upto date that is??

Only one question / issue to resolve I think, it doesn't dim with lights on at night, any pointers what to connect in to get this working would be appreciated Thumbs Up

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Mick,
trying to contact you thorugh skype, but no luck.
Could you please send me an e mail with your phonenumber.
Have a simple question.
  
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@urhunden

Contact me tommrow night round 18:00pm UK time on Skype..


@Beanie

There is a wire in the old D3 plug that dimms the old D3 screen, not had time to check it out but its on my to do list when i get chance. Not sure if it will work but you never know.

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Cheers Mick, looking at the wiring diagrams, its pin 12 in the D3 plug, a red / brown wire that comes from the Lighting control switch

On the D4 diagram, there is only a "Illum" terminal indicated at pin 1, however no wire is shown on the schematic ?

So I think we need to identify the wire at pin 1, is it there, and what voltage is it at daylight and night, to compare this with the voltage from the D3 lighting control switch at pin 12.

Does that make sense ?
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I'd guess that the screen dimming feed would be a PWM signal rather than a voltage ramp.
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So does that mean it may work Robbie?

BTW what's a PWM? power modulation ?

EDIT Pulse Width Modulation Wink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation

Have you a pic of the wiring plug for the D4 screen to check if a wire is there Whistle
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On the D4 it shows nothing connected to this pin.? I am sure the D4 gets it's dimming info from another source, I will have to see if and when I get time to have a look at it..

But if you have Greg chase it up..

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Might have to take Mr Entwistles dash apart at Buxton Whistle

I cant yet find any pictures of the D4 connector to see if there is a wire, the wiring diagram on Topix doesn't show one?



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The D4 has an ILLUM function which appears in various areas (including the connector we've been looking at)
I can see in the CJB, there is a FET - Ambient Lighting which has an output of ILLUM which is the same colour (Red/Brown) as the D3 lighting sensor. Indicates (possibly) that it's the same function. but we still need to see the D4 connector for the back of the touch screen (please)

Would a FET provide the oscillating signal that is alluded to from the PWM?


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hi Mick,

are you on skype now???
  
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The illum circuit shown via the fets will be all the ancillary lighting including buttons. I would have thought that would have nothing to do with the dimming circuit that controls screen brightness. That signal probably comes from an ambient light sensor.

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When you use the brightness rotary switch, it will dim all the lighting internally down ie the instrument pack. Wonder if it would at least allow some adjustment for screen brightness?
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I am not sure that is would do anything for the screen brightness. There are various light sensors on the D4 covering straight ahead, vertically up, to the rear and left and right to cater for all the different systems. I think there is also one in the centre control panel under the home menu button that may be for the screen brightness.



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