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Disco_Mikey wrote:
The standard TDV6 setup is barely adequate, IMHO.
It sounds to me that you either had a problem mechanically or dare I say it .....with your driving 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
25th Mar 2014 9:55 am
A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2831
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Tdv6 discs and pads, and Brembo discs and pads...
I'm sure you can see the difference. :wink:
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25th Mar 2014 10:48 am
d3mad
Member Since: 11 Oct 2012
Location: Tenbury Wells
Posts: 369
I have just upgraded buying the front and rear V8 kit of Advanced factors.
What a difference is all I can say. We live in a very hilly area climbing daily up and down from 30m asl to 300 asl.
We tow our daughters ponies 3 times a week in the area and I had severe brake fade at times culminating in a warped disc.
That aside, the difference is immense. Personal taste, but when stopping and especially with a trailer on my family is now much safer than on the standards discs.
Incidentally, my old brakes were serviced by Bodsy a few months ago and there is still plenty of meat on them, they just were not up to what we required.
Go V8 upgrades is my suggestion when you can2 x D3's (Twins)
TDV6 HSE 2006 - Buckingham Blue - Wintrac Exreme S
HIDS4U GVIF + Reversing camera
HIDS4U Blackvue HD front and rear
HIDS4U OSRAM CBI xenon bulbs +
HIDS4U LED's interior & exterior
CKO Twin DVB-TV Freeview Tuner
Traxide Dual Battery System with Optima
BAS FBH remote
Bodsy DRL's
Bodsy EGR's Blanked
V8 Brake Upgrade by Steve, Advanced Factors
25th Mar 2014 10:58 am
Comusat
Member Since: 05 May 2013
Location: Stalybridge
Posts: 575
Am I right in thinking that the V8 upgrade from AF uses the standard calipers that are already on the car?Lee
D3 TDV6 HSE, Bonatti Grey, 7 Seats, Dual Climate, Heated F&R Seats & Screen, Fog's , Auto lights & Wipers, SAT NAV, Harmon Kardon, Cruise, many rattles, occasional leak
D2 3.9 V8 supposed to be Green, was mainly rust. Gone but not forgotten.
25th Mar 2014 11:18 am
d3mad
Member Since: 11 Oct 2012
Location: Tenbury Wells
Posts: 369
yes, it has bigger caliper carriers in the kit and uses standard calipers2 x D3's (Twins)
TDV6 HSE 2006 - Buckingham Blue - Wintrac Exreme S
HIDS4U GVIF + Reversing camera
HIDS4U Blackvue HD front and rear
HIDS4U OSRAM CBI xenon bulbs +
HIDS4U LED's interior & exterior
CKO Twin DVB-TV Freeview Tuner
Traxide Dual Battery System with Optima
BAS FBH remote
Bodsy DRL's
Bodsy EGR's Blanked
V8 Brake Upgrade by Steve, Advanced Factors
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25th Mar 2014 11:19 am
Woolmeister
Member Since: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Chandler's Ford
Posts: 3459
Calipers are the same.
Pads are the same.
Caliper carriers are different.
Discs are different.
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2019 Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 Tdi 190 DSG Sportline in Quartz Grey. Excellent vehicle. Gone.
2017 Discovery Sport HSE Auto in Carpathian Grey and Ebony Leather. Modern JLR Junk. Gone.
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25th Mar 2014 11:19 am
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Thinking of doing this on my next service (already been pre-warned that the pads and discs will need doing at the next service), so that would be a good time to swap them over, however does this upgrade affect the HDC??, or does the HDC compensate for the more powerful brakes?? Also does it affect the traction control, when the car automatically applies the brakes to push the drive to the non spinning wheel, or again does the traction control compensate for all of this??
I understand that all we are doing is up-grading to the V8 brakes, but wonder if there are any changes to the car software??
Best wishes to all
25th Mar 2014 12:34 pm
Woolmeister
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Steve2021 BMW iX3 Premier Edition in Carbon Black ⚡️🔌
2019 Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 Tdi 190 DSG Sportline in Quartz Grey. Excellent vehicle. Gone.
2017 Discovery Sport HSE Auto in Carpathian Grey and Ebony Leather. Modern JLR Junk. Gone.
2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual in Zermatt Silver with Ebony Cloth (143k) Gone, but now patrolling the Asia section of the West Midlands Safari Park!
25th Mar 2014 12:39 pm
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mallo wrote:
Thinking of doing this
Easy job Michael - Will fix you up with everything you need on the next visit if you want! No software changes and a straight forward job, just like replacing old for newPaul Redding
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25th Mar 2014 12:41 pm
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Thanks Steve
I have some reading to do......
Best Wishes
25th Mar 2014 12:43 pm
mallo
Member Since: 10 Feb 2009
Location: Jersey
Posts: 351
Boringoldgit wrote:
mallo wrote:
Thinking of doing this
Easy job Michael - Will fix you up with everything you need on the next visit if you want! No software changes and a straight forward job, just like replacing old for new
Steve
It may be an expensive trip over.......
You were my next point of approach…..
Should know a bit more about our trip over in the next few days.
Will be in-touch.
Best wishes
25th Mar 2014 12:46 pm
yogi972
Member Since: 05 Jun 2011
Location: Kineton
Posts: 3373
To sum it up in my experience.
Original brakes were ok if pressed hard enough
V8 brAkes less effort required to do same job
brembos, jus pure brake porn, but only got to have a gentle foot for A windscreen kiss
25th Mar 2014 5:13 pm
cmyers_uk
Member Since: 10 Apr 2005
Location: Near Bristol, UK
Posts: 433
Thank you all for the interesting replys , I would have brembos by choice i love them on a car they look ok but a set of
now that sexy! i was just interested in peoples thoughts it really does seem to come down to feel and lack of fade , the bottom line is it actually deosnt appear to impact emergency stop distances in normal driving. As i said money aside I would have brembos , but then i love watches , chrome and other bling
thx again
Chris
26th Mar 2014 5:37 am
Robbie
Member Since: 05 Feb 2006
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Quote:
the bottom line is it actually deosnt appear to impact emergency stop distances in normal driving
Disagree; they do materially improve the emergency stop distance as the regular D3 TDV6 brakes are incapable of operating at the limit of friction throughout an emergency stop in situations that could easily be described as 'normal'.
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Location: Carluke
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There has been a couple of times, i've had to call on the full fury of the standard set up and found them severely lacking.
One was a guy pulling out into lane 2 with no indicator or prior warning, the speed difference was 30+ and i was convinced i was going to take him and the car he wanted to overtake out.
The Brembo set up has been tested from high speeds and is night and day to the standard set up.
I needed to replace a standard caliper when i was renewing the brakes anyway so the cost to upgrade to Brembo's for me was not very much over getting a new caliper and better V8 disc's and carriers.In loving memory of FA54WSK.
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