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sargeantmillar
 


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Help - Fuel filler flap not closing

Hi all,

New on here so may be asking the same old question but I have searched the forum and only found solutions for the locking / unlocking part of the fuel filler flap.

So, this might be a new issue as my local dealer couldn't answer it.

When i push the flap to close it just bounces back out as if nothing is catching. Also when I lock the car with the filler flap open the little securing pin that is supposed to pop out doesn't. My local dealer let me try a new catch that fits to the filler flap while I was there as he reckoned that this was a common part that breaks but that has not fixed it. There was a rubber seal missing which i replaced but it has not helped.

I have checked behind the jack and the cable to the actuator looks secure and the routing clear.

So my questions are:

Does the actuator operate the closing mechanism or just the lock?
Can you get a replacement part that the fuel filler flap connects into?
Does this mean i need a new actuator and how easy are they to fit?

Thanks in advance

Lee
  
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tlt
 


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Hi;

Easy enough to fit, no tools necessary. Here is a link to the part, however, you might want to check more localized sources first.. I believe they have a UK branch.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/ARV780020G.cfm
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/CAL500070G.cfm
  
Post #8913931st Feb 2012 3:21 am
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ron3005
 


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contact TLO on the site same happened to me got the parts from the large one about £6 for the kit 5 min job Thumbs Up
  
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sargeantmillar
 


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Thanks guys,

Unfortunately I've already tried those bits at the dealers and it ain't fixed the problem Rolling Eyes

Any other suggestions?

Lee
  
Post #8915981st Feb 2012 3:53 pm
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Iv'e just brimmed mine ready for tomorrow Big Cry

I just pushed the cover and it opened and closed ok afterwards. The locking device does just that, prevents opening when car is locked.
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Post #8916091st Feb 2012 4:22 pm
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ron3005
 


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I hope you fitted all the kit as i made the same mistake. you will find there is a sequence to fitting the parts correctly or it will not stay closed The part that the rubber fits over check the inside you will see what I mean
  
Post #8916141st Feb 2012 4:36 pm
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sargeantmillar
 


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ron3005 wrote:
I hope you fitted all the kit as i made the same mistake. you will find there is a sequence to fitting the parts correctly or it will not stay closed The part that the rubber fits over check the inside you will see what I mean


I thought there was only one way it could go as there is a pin at one side and a ridge at the other? ???

Mmmm. More probing and fiddling me thinks.
  
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sargeantmillar
 


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Hi Ron,

I've checked the way I've installed the two pieces and there is only one way it can go together. So I am now officially stumped.

I've soaked it all in WD40 and left it a few days but still no movement. The locking pin doesn't operate either although it does look like the end might be snapped off. Can this happen?

Anyone have any ideas?

If it is the actuator, how easy is it to replace?
  
Post #8930544th Feb 2012 10:12 pm
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sargeantmillar
 


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Ok, so with a bit of pestering at my local Stratstones i've managed to purchase the correct parts and fixed it Very Happy

As it's not a common part to break I thought I would share my limited knowledge incase anyone else has the same problem.

Looking at the fuel flap diagram below, the common part to break is the small plastic part that attaches to the flap itself (405C44). The rubber cover (021A32) was also missing from mine so initially I replaced both of these parts as per my previous posts.



However, this didn't solve the problem. So Looking at the diagram again, I ordered the remaining parts including a full new actuator just incase. It turns out the that only part i needed was the centre piece (also called an actuator) that fits in the fuel filler housing (9C070B). Just incase I replaced the two other parts within the housing, the latch (21952) and spring (405A24). And hey presto, I know have a latching flap !!!

The photo below shows the old (left) and new (right) actuators. As you can see a small lip had snapped off the old one hence the non latching.



It was a simple procedure. The plastic actuator is held in place by the two pins top and bottom that fit in pre-made holes in the hosuing. The latch and spring are held in place by the actuator. I removed my actuator with some fine nose pliers giving it a gentle tug and replace the new one with just my fingers.

Simples !!!

Hope this all makes sense and helps someone in the future. If your struggling to understand try reading it in a Geordie accent Laughing
  
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Nice write-up and good to see that I am not the only one who lays out spare parts in order to make sense of them!
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Glad you got it sorted Thumbs Up
  
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I've just fixed the same problem on my D3 with the 'actuator' part - my old one had snapped off identically to the above.

Thanks to Nick (TLO) for providing the part Thumbs Up

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The bit that breaks is only £1.07 + Vat in most 4x4 shop EG Paddocks, John Craddock, Island 4X4 ETC

The actuator that locks the fuel flap is a tad more expensive at around £30 unless someone knows whether the plastic plunger that locks the flap and breaks can be bought separately. Very Happy
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Martin
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Yes I know, that's why I said 'actuator' not actuator Wink
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Thumbs Up Very Happy
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