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295/45/20 Grabbers & 20" 'V spoke' alloys problem
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295/45/20 Grabbers & 20" 'V spoke' alloys problem

Ok just got back from local tyre fitter, 1.5 hours wasted!

Inner profile of tyre fouls the upper wishbone joint.

So.. next question... why?!

It's an 05 car so suspension issue is not the fault

I'm assuming the V style supercharger alloys are not the same offset as the stormers?


Running out of solutions and looking for ideas


PS:

The disco3 wiki needs to be updated for any future members who may be running these alloys.. 295 UHP Grabbers & V style 20" alloys do not fit
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Post #5043966th Aug 2009 11:57 am
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pair-of-Universal-10...286.c0.m14


Looking at these 10mm universal spacers,
The standard bolts look long enough to cope with additional hub offset, anyone have any remarks?
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I've just purchase some 9.5mm 5 stud universal spacers and will let everyone know how it pans out!
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I think these are the same type/size tyres ronp was running without any issues before he got the LTZ's, might be worth dropping him a PM Thumbs Up
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Cheers SJR,

Yes Ronp and a couple of others are indeed running the UHP's, but not on the V style supercharger alloys.

I was stupid to assume they had the same offset obviously (both developed for the RRS).
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you might want to edit the thread title to include the v-spoke problem, as it would appear the 295/45/20 UHP tyre is OK, but just not in tandem with V-spokes Thumbs Up
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This is the clearance I had with The 295/45/20 Grabbers on my Stormers.

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My stormers stand more proud than the V spoke [even some other Stormers]
However, when I move to the LTZ'z I sold on the tyres to Discocuzzy.
DC then fitted them to his D3 on V Spokes [see pic below] and although neat, there was no fouling???
So seems very strange as to why they don't fit yours?


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Tis a strange one.

The offside was within 2mm of the wishbone joint and I pursuaded them to fit the nearside (so we could lower the suspension and see if the geometry changed) and that side was touching the tyre wall... obviously they then flatly refused to carry on.

I've now bought four 9.5mm spacers (front & rear) so hopefully that'll be problem solved.
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Are the spacers 'bolt on' or do they the slip over existing studs.
If the latter, will you have enough stud for the Wheel nut to bolt onto?
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The chaps at Kwik fit felt the studs were long enough to put spacers in.

time will tell!
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if one side has clearence and the other side doesnt. surely there is something fundementally wrong here Confused

has it been in an accident ?
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Not that I know, the tyre guy said the width on these tyres vary, and the 295 is "nominal", so being we were so tight on one side, 2mm wasn't an unlikely variation between moulds
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AWD man wrote:
The chaps at Kwik fit felt the studs were long enough to put spacers in.

time will tell!


No disrespect or offence intended here, so please don't take any.....but!

I would be seeking a more qualified opinion than a Kwik Fit Fitter TBH Neutral
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Got a correction to make.
Whilst studying your wheels against Discocuzzys, I noticed that on that pic it's not the Grabbers he's got on.
But he did fit them to his V spokes.

Have you checked that your wheels are original LR ?
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Ha Yes I can see "your point"

but I've been dealing with these guys for years and years and they're not a load of simple greese monkeys... 2 of them I respect highly.
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