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This is what you will find on each end of the sills under the covers.
12th Sep 2019 10:51 pm
Landybandy
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Bloody hell that is a trap for all the to build up.
13th Sep 2019 10:36 am
rrhool
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Loads of wax, inside and out, annual clean to get the mud out
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13th Sep 2019 10:43 am
adam
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Landybandy wrote:
Bloody hell that is a trap for all the to build up.
I remember cleaning my D4 sills out - never been off-road, washed very regularly, jet washed underneath and around sills regularly - amount of crud was surprising.
The joy of plastic sill covers - not just LR.Now Golf GTI PP, 7 speed DSG.
Ex D3 and D4
13th Sep 2019 12:24 pm
lynalldiscovery
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Landybandy wrote:
Bloody hell that is a trap for all the to build up.
That pic was taken just over two years ago and I have just done them again, dustpan full out of each side and the car does not do anything dirty at all!
I also had to treat a little surface rust at the sill rears both sides, only surface stuff, but thats how it all begins.
Both sides now waxed using a compressor and wax gun, still have to do the rest of the car.
Sill failure is going to be the death of the D3/4 in years to come.
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13th Sep 2019 4:19 pm
Landybandy
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Well here it is all laid bare. It’s not a pretty sight I must say. I hope the welder can do something with it. What do you guys think?
14th Sep 2019 7:34 pm
Landybandy
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Sill & sidestep removed
Here are the pics
14th Sep 2019 7:35 pm
LR3norway
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Possibly one of the easiest sills to make. No curves. A bit more job with the rear arch part, but nothing big.
Find it a bit strange that a frame vehicle fails mot because of body rust.
14th Sep 2019 9:02 pm
Landybandy
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You saying he shouldn’t have failed it?
I have no idea what the criteria is for the MOT testing.
14th Sep 2019 9:24 pm
LR3norway
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I'm not into the rules in England. But outer sills are not structural on a frame car.
14th Sep 2019 9:37 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Wouldn’t they have to take the plastic covers off to see that rot, something I didn’t think they did for MOTs?
14th Sep 2019 9:42 pm
Rmacaul
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Would fail on being within 30cm of seat belt mount.
14th Sep 2019 9:54 pm
Landybandy
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DSL wrote:
Wouldn’t they have to take the plastic covers off to see that rot, something I didn’t think they did for MOTs?
As stated in previous comments on this thread, when the car was on the ramp he could see the inner sill separating from outer sill. He Poked his screwdriver through and it caved in like a meringue.
14th Sep 2019 10:07 pm
kayble
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you should take the rear wheel arch covers out and assess rust there as well; you may only be looking at part of the issue.
14th Sep 2019 11:22 pm
lynalldiscovery
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Landybandy wrote:
DSL wrote:
Wouldn’t they have to take the plastic covers off to see that rot, something I didn’t think they did for MOTs?
As stated in previous comments on this thread, when the car was on the ramp he could see the inner sill separating from outer sill. He Poked his screwdriver through and it caved in like a meringue.
Whats done is done, but Im pretty sure the mot guys are not allowed to poke at pretty much anything, they do have a silly little plastic hammer that they are allowed to use.
I reckon that will repair well and reasonably easy for a decent welder.
Any fab shops in your area? they will be able to make that panel on their brake press, in fact I reckon a bench mounted sheet folder will also do the job.
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