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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13567
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I know it'll sort itself out, but the weekend has felt like I've been sat in a barrel rolling down a road.  Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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 4th Sep 2023 10:51 am |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10355
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M5 southbound today, WTF was going on, the traffic was worse than a bank hol or summer Saturday. With the kids being back at school I thought we’d have a decent run down to Devon, not a chance, queuing most of the way to Bristol, then further down in Somerset. It can’t have been all the pensioners heading away now there’s no kids on hols.
Saying that, f..in lovely weather, sitting outside the ‘van with a cold beer 
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 4th Sep 2023 6:02 pm |
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sarumlight
Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Off the Plain
Posts: 1592
 
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Maybe it’s all the parents with kids in schools that aren’t safe grabbing a cheeky extra week in the West Country?
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| 4th Sep 2023 6:11 pm |
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sarumlight
Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Off the Plain
Posts: 1592
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I’ve got one at home for another week because he couldn’t enroll at college because the online form doesn’t have any Nationalities to choose from. At least he’s happy about it!
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| 4th Sep 2023 6:13 pm |
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disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 288
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Road rage...
Sitting in traffic in London, wanted to switch to the other lane as mine was clogged up. Had been indicating for some time and thought the kind lorry driver behind was letting me out as he didn't move for a few seconds when the traffic in front of him went. Pulled out while saying thank you. I must've misjudged the situation as he proceeds to lean on the horn, so I stick my hand out of the window to say sorry and try to defuse.
Doesn't work... he calls me a  a few times, you'd think I'd murdered his dog or something. Accelerates the lorry to within a couple of feet of my bumper and slams on the brakes to just about avoid collision. For the next 10 mins he is up my backside trying to overtake on Chelsea embankment where there is nowhere to overtake. After a short time I just think 'sod this, don't want this guy behind me', pull over and he steams past.
Later on I happen to pass him on the driver's side of his lorry while he is sitting in traffic and I have a free lane, I didn't even realise it was him until a massive glob of spit lands on my windscreen.
Got to admit I then stopped the car straight away and got out to ask him what he thought he was doing spitting on people's cars and explain that I had thought he was letting me out and wasn't cutting him up intentionally. He winds his window up, looks sheepish and guilty like a naughty schoolboy and looks straight ahead pretending I don't exist.
Just pretty disgusting behaviour to be honest and although I have pretty thick skin it made what could've been an enjoyable 3 hour evening drive fairly unpleasant.
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| 5th Sep 2023 1:18 pm |
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Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
Posts: 280
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disco chris wrote:Road rage...
Sitting in traffic in London, wanted to switch to the other lane as mine was clogged up. Had been indicating for some time and thought the kind lorry driver behind was letting me out as he didn't move for a few seconds when the traffic in front of him went. Pulled out while saying thank you. I must've misjudged the situation as he proceeds to lean on the horn, so I stick my hand out of the window to say sorry and try to defuse.
Doesn't work... he calls me a a few times, you'd think I'd murdered his dog or something. Accelerates the lorry to within a couple of feet of my bumper and slams on the brakes to just about avoid collision. For the next 10 mins he is up my backside trying to overtake on Chelsea embankment where there is nowhere to overtake. After a short time I just think 'sod this, don't want this guy behind me', pull over and he steams past.
Later on I happen to pass him on the driver's side of his lorry while he is sitting in traffic and I have a free lane, I didn't even realise it was him until a massive glob of spit lands on my windscreen.
Got to admit I then stopped the car straight away and got out to ask him what he thought he was doing spitting on people's cars and explain that I had thought he was letting me out and wasn't cutting him up intentionally. He winds his window up, looks sheepish and guilty like a naughty schoolboy and looks straight ahead pretending I don't exist.
Just pretty disgusting behaviour to be honest and although I have pretty thick skin it made what could've been an enjoyable 3 hour evening drive fairly unpleasant.
No excuse for that sort of behaviour from a professional driver (& I say that as an HGV driver myself).
I'd put money on it being a tipper ?
However, please bear in mind that most automatic HGV's don't pull away instantly - that delay could have been enough for you to think he was letting you out. (BTW, I'm not condoning his actions at all, just letting you know).
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| 5th Sep 2023 2:11 pm |
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disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 288
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It was a McDonalds lorry, not artic one smaller, company was Martin Brower. I was also pretty surprised, and you're right you'd expect it more from a tipper driver, though I don't wish to tar them all with the same brush.
I'm fairly sure I could hear and see him changing gear (you know the long pause between gears engaging and lurching of the cab) so don't think it was an auto, but I fully understand that if he hadn't seen me or planned to let me out he could get wound up about it. I just misread the situation, honest mistake.
Not often you feel vulnerable in a Discovery but with a big lorry steaming up behind you and no sign of hitting the brakes I did wonder for a second whether he'd completely lost it.
And yes, one day he will do that to the wrong person. Gobbing on someone's motor is about as provocative as it gets.
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| 5th Sep 2023 3:00 pm |
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Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1200
 
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Spitting is 'very low life', so if you wanted to make sure the driver 'had his cards marked', a quick call to the company transport manager should do the trick.
Like others have said, had he picked on the wrong person, it might not have ended well for him.
Dave 2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
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| 5th Sep 2023 3:29 pm |
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HOODIE
Member Since: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Great Notley
Posts: 77
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I would definitely phone company’s transport manager as with a temper like that god knows what he’d do to some other poor sod!
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| 5th Sep 2023 4:21 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Firms that try and ignore the existence of The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013 - the regs that replaced the Distance Selling regs, and in particular the right to a refund if you buy online.
Ordered something online from a business I've used a few times in the past. Delivery very expensive, but when I thought about the time/cost of me collecting, I figured ok. Get a vague "we aim to deliver 1-5 working days" but no more than that.
Email comes through today saying "we'll deliver tomorrow". Not their fault, but a family member has been taken ill so as soon as I spot the email (within minutes) I'm on the phone saying sorry, no can do. Happy to wait for the next run to this area, appreciate it may be a week or two.
Them: "Oh no, it's already scheduled so you'll have to pay another £90+vat for another deliver"
Me: "Errrr, no. It's not left your yard yet, I know as I've chatted with your drivers before and I know they load in the morning. Just chuck it on the next one running through this way"
Them: "No, we've scheduled it."
Me: "Ok, cancel the order and refund me"
Them: "Can't do that. We only rarely accept cancellations and we charge a restocking fee"
Me: "You do know you can't refuse a cancellation except for specific classes of product, like digital rights/media or bespoke goods, right? This is metal fencing that you have pile up in your stock yard, pretty sure there's nothing bespoke about it."
Them: "our terms and conditions state...."
Me: "Ah, the ones you sent me after I'd paid? The ones that still cannot frustrate my consumer rights? You do realise your terms cannot reduce or remove consumer rights offered by current legislation?"
Them: "I'll have customer service call you"
Me: "I'll send formal notice of cancellation by email, save them the call. I'll expect my money back without deduction within 14 days." I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 5th Sep 2023 5:18 pm |
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Brian Considine
Member Since: 05 Dec 2022
Location: Nr Margate
Posts: 280
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disco chris wrote:It was a McDonalds lorry,
Many large companies sub-contract their logistics to third parties. However, when they have their names on the vehicles they expect good conduct. In this case I would contact McDonalds direct & complain to them.
Driving HGV's in London can be very stressfull (up till 3 years ago I was driving 18 tonners in London for a well know supermarket). You have to have the right temprement (speeling ?) - no matter what winds you up you need to be above that and don't bite back. The vehicles I drove had full CCTV, tracking & telematics - they could almost reproduce an entire journey by the metre.
Yes, it's stressfull if you let it get the better of you. If you cannot conduct yourself in a professional matter this particular driver should be at the very least.
As a last resort, if you don't get any joy from McDonalds then report the incident to the Traffic Commisioners - they have wide ranging powers in the transport industry & can suspend Driving Licences (the vocation parts) and operators licinces without having to go to court.
The last thing any holder of a vocational licence wants is to get "an invitation to attend the Traffic Commissioners Office for an interveiw.).
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| 6th Sep 2023 10:44 am |
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pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2595
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My Nephew ..... he is a Diversity and Inclusion Manager for a well known store.
I cracked a joke about his old Iraq school friend that had him incensed.  . Then when I told him that I'm offended on his behalf because he appears to be offended at me... how do we square that one.
I told the Mrs last night that I considered donating £50k of any inheritance coming his way to a Diversity and Inclusion Charity.... Mrs wasn't impressed.
The younger generation.
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| 6th Sep 2023 11:34 am |
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DN
D3 Decade
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
Posts: 2345
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Trailered Movements wrote:Spitting is 'very low life', so if you wanted to make sure the driver 'had his cards marked', a quick call to the company transport manager should do the trick.
Like others have said, had he picked on the wrong person, it might not have ended well for him.
Dave
Gobbing on someone’s car is bad enough, but accelerating your truck towards the back of a vehicle and then slamming on the brakes at the last millisecond, deserves ‘nutter’ status. I fully agree, this idiot needs to be reported. D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
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| 6th Sep 2023 1:16 pm |
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