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It appears the easy way to check if cable is installed on the vehicle once confirmed the fuse is in the fuse box is to remove fog lights and look throught small hole in the bumber which shows capped cable attached to the bumper support to add to peoples efforts to check and prep for it if it helps.
Greg
15th Dec 2020 5:00 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Ceekay wrote:
^^^ Good to hear.
Slightly different question, I take it the radar obviously scans and does its job through the bumper but I don't suppose anyone knows if it still works if the front number plate was also mounted across this area just a couple of inches in front of the the sensor mount and how sensitive it would be to additional lighting, although this is not directly in front of the radar more above it?
I have also seen a couple Radars off a Range Rover Sport that are FPLA and the same ref number do we know if these are suitable?
Many thanks
Radar Q - the manual says:
Quote:
ACC MALFUNCTION
If a fault occurs while ACC or Follow mode is
operational, ACC will switch off and cannot be
used until the fault is cleared. The message
DRIVER INTERVENE is displayed briefly in the
message center and is then replaced by the
message CRUISE NOT AVAILABLE.
If a fault with ACC or any related system occurs
at any other time, the message CRUISE NOT
AVAILABLE will be displayed. It will not be
possible to activate ACC in any mode.
Accumulations of dirt, snow or ice on the radar
sensor or cover may inhibit ACC operation.
Fitting of a vehicle front protector or metallised
badges may also affect ACC operation.
If this occurs in ACC cruise /Follow mode, the
audible alarm sounds and the message DRIVER
INTERVENE displays briefly. The message
RADAR SENSOR BLOCKED will then be
displayed.
Note: The same messages may also be
displayed while driving on open roads with few
objects for the radar to detect.
Clearing the obstruction allows the system to
return to normal operation. If the obstruction
is present when ACC is inactive (e.g. on initial
starting or with ACC switched off), the message
RADAR SENSOR BLOCKED will be displayed.
Tires other than those recommended for your
vehicle may have different circumferences. This
can affect the correct operation of ACC.
With regard to the last paragraph, this probably explains why I saw an additional CCF parameter automatically added - "LSB Current 255_50R20" - which I didn't see in other config examples and can't get rid of it.
As for the FPLA, the F is just a later year, I think the FW would be the same for the D4 retrofit as when I did mine it showed in the ECU as latest version afterwards.
I am not using a DPLA thanks to a cock up in the seller's eBay listing but I can't say what just yet in case it doesn't work out for me and you guys go and get one and blame me when it doesn't work!In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
15th Dec 2020 6:50 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8154
“F” is the year of manufacturing the sensor, = 2016.
The main thing to check is the number of pins in the socket, at this stage through lack of information it must be 18 particularly if you have existing wires and plug.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
16th Dec 2020 10:15 am
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
M3DPO wrote:
The main thing to check is the number of pins in the socket, at this stage through lack of information it must be 18 particularly if you have existing wires and plug.
It is 18 pins for the correct "just like factory" retrofit for 2012-2016 D4 whether you have the harness fitted or not.
The connector is a C2025 and is in the wiring diagrams.
Other units may work with same or fewer pins but you would have to do that research and post your findings.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
16th Dec 2020 12:31 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
RATA1 wrote:
Hello.
The D4 bracket is LR062475 from my searching and it is £86.90 +VAT not sure if the 405 radar unit fits it but probably does as LR062476 is a common radar unit across LR4/RRS/RR etc.
And here is the elusive bracket.
Looks like it will sit just kissing the inside of the bumper.
The part number on it is FH22-9E729-AB which may suggest that the "range" of radars would maybe have FH22 as their prefix for 2015 and 2016 models since nobody can find any on the used market?
The firmware files that are loaded on mine and Dondiddy's ECU from Pat all begin FH22...
Didn't get any hardware to fix it but I expect it is four M6 bolts with shake washers. It is aluminum apart from the posts and screw adjuster.
Hopefully I'll get to mount it at the weekend if it stops raining.
Cheers.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
16th Dec 2020 4:47 pm
PeterR
Member Since: 07 Jan 2020
Location: Camberley
Posts: 28
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I've decided to do this for my car as well.
Radar arrived from eBay and picked the bracket and switch up from local dealer the other day, would like to keep it as stock as possible.
Just need a bit of time and dry weather to get on with it but will wait until the car has been to dealer for a warranty issue on Tuesday.
Is there a consensus that the DPLA radars will need re-flashing or should it be ok for a 2016?
Peter
16th Dec 2020 5:53 pm
Ceekay
Member Since: 17 May 2009
Location: Bury
Posts: 2057
^^^^^^
My number plate is mounted on a thin piece of black painted metal about 2 inch’s in from of where the radar sits so as you say probably trial and error and if the latter, number plate would need to be relocated.....again Assuming I go ahead of course D4 HSE Lux MY16 Club Waitomo
D3 HSE MY06 missing her still…
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16th Dec 2020 5:55 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
PeterR wrote:
I've decided to do this for my car as well.
Radar arrived from eBay and picked the bracket and switch up from local dealer the other day, would like to keep it as stock as possible.
Just need a bit of time and dry weather to get on with it but will wait until the car has been to dealer for a warranty issue on Tuesday.
Is there a consensus that the DPLA radars will need re-flashing or should it be ok for a 2016?
Peter
Hello,
They all need flashing. Unless you have a factory fit one which might be FH22-xxxxxx-xx.
Couldn't extract any info from my dealer of find anything online so I am waiting for a 2016 ECU scan that has it from factory. Even if it was an FH22, you would have to pay full price at over a grand or wait a very long time for one to appear on eBay. So the proven DPLA at the moment with a £25 flash is the best option.
I might add mine to the proven list soon too
I think the DPLAs are a tad overpriced on eBay at the moment mind. Must be all the demand on here!
Good luck.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
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16th Dec 2020 5:57 pm
PeterR
Member Since: 07 Jan 2020
Location: Camberley
Posts: 28
Thank you.
Will get onto it.
16th Dec 2020 6:02 pm
M3DPO
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Location: Notts.
Posts: 8154
FH22; F = manufactured 2016
H2= Range Rover Evoque series.
Ideally from my assumptions you need a FDLA-9G768–###
I stand to be corrected.
I also agree that DPLA’s are being exploited in price and very soon someone will come up with a later version that can be fitted at a much lower price.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
16th Dec 2020 6:50 pm
PeterR
Member Since: 07 Jan 2020
Location: Camberley
Posts: 28
This looks a later version, with a cable if someone needs it.
16th Dec 2020 7:46 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Bit shabby given a new one can be had for around that.
I asked him if he had tested it and where it came from and he didn't know, think I offered £250 based on that.
Still for sale In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
16th Dec 2020 9:17 pm
mjom89
Member Since: 13 Sep 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 586
Well, I’m in the club. Flashed the ECU tonight thanks to GAP, set the CCF, calibrated the module and all is good!
I tried with the Speed Control setting set to Adaptive Stop and Go, it calibrated OK and then when I pressed cruise nothing happened.
I then set Speed Control to Speed Control (as per post on page 3), calibrated again and then when I tried cruise I saw “Cruise not available” until I parked up and let the car go to sleep.
Calibration took 5 miles on country roads and then 3 miles on an A road... I had the ACC light flashing until it was done.
The only side effect is my car now tells me it needs a service in 1400 miles which I think is wrong. Is this common after ECU flash and CCF changes?
16th Dec 2020 9:45 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Well done. That was quick from Pat and you with the switchpack!
Shame about the stop and go not working. Sounds like this be my issue too as I get nothing.
Could you PM me your ECU list that you sent to Pat?In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
16th Dec 2020 9:51 pm
mjom89
Member Since: 13 Sep 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 586
We are in tier 3 at home now so I couldn’t find anything better to do than to sit in my car with my laptop and IID!
Switxh back was a 10 min job once the power had drained out the car. ECU flash was terrifying, CCF changes less scary, calibration a waiting game with a bit of trial and error.
The cruise cancels if the vehicle I am following goes below 20 with a bong and a message saying driver intervention required. Is this because I am unable to set stop and go?
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Assuming I go ahead of course 
