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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
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My x Silver Freelander 2 X landrover mangement (LRE) had 3200 miles on it when purchased.
300 miles later it was making the odd clunking and sometimes loud banging noises, nothing could be found and performance not effected.
1500 miles later severe front wheel wobble, diagnosed front wheel bearings completely gone. This was put down to the incorrect assembly of front hubs when it had had its new gearbox fitted at 3000 miles, which all came as surprise to me.
At 6000 miles huge bang from front end, (loud enough to make you jump out of seat) called LR assist out no fault found, but they did get it to make noise again though not as loud.
300 miles later whole car was shaking and felt completely unsafe to drive.
2 weeks later after various road testing by dealer, Landrover conceded it needed another gearbox.
This time they also replaced the gearbox intercooler which they believed was the reason 2nd gearbox had failed, as it had probably become contaminated with debris from the first gearbox failure.
So by 7000 miles it had its 3rd gearbox  
Perhaps a worst case scenario but not an option willing to consider again.
Mine also looked immaculate underneath, wheels etc, but was informed that they are all refurbished by Landrover when LRE have finished with them before they are put back on the market for re sale D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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 9th Feb 2016 4:12 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7440
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The FL2's a good car (normally) and you were a serial LR purchaser. What a shame that you had to put up with all of that 
Would you consider coming back, just giving the ex LRE nags a wide birth? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 9th Feb 2016 5:03 pm |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
Posts: 2232
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Still have a D4 which is what I replaced it with over 2 yrs now and still going strong 
On the plus side, Landrover customer services did get involved and contributed a £500 to the D4 purchase, as I was somewhat reluctant to keep the Freelander long term D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 9th Feb 2016 5:28 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7440
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Very pleased to hear it I was going by your signature, where it looked you might have parted with them all 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 9th Feb 2016 5:38 pm |
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Darbs
Member Since: 29 Dec 2010
Location: Nr Pershore, Worcs
Posts: 102
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Is it obvious from the log book if it was an ex-LRE vehicle? Or is there some other way to tell?
I am looking for a 2012 D4, so it won't be very low mileage, one owner, but LRE may have been the first owner.
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| 9th Feb 2016 11:34 pm |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7440
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Good point. All LRE cars are silver or white and are also likely to have a registration beginning with "O".
Beyond that, I'm not sure of a definitive answer. 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 10th Feb 2016 2:29 am |
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mz mini
Member Since: 02 Jul 2014
Location: Sunny Devon
Posts: 1759
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I wonder if they look on the logbook like an Ex Demo worth looking into perhaps Land Rover 90 - deceased
Discovery 3 - deceased
Discovery 4 2013
Mini Cooper S 1964 Mk1 - International Rally winner red & white
Mini Cooper s 1964 Mk1 - Road Rally champion green & white
Mini Cooper S 1971 Mk3 - original and unrestored 
Porsche 911 997
Porsche Boxster 3.4S
VW Polo 1.2
Citroen Xsara Picasso - shed/run around
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| 10th Feb 2016 7:35 am |
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Darbs
Member Since: 29 Dec 2010
Location: Nr Pershore, Worcs
Posts: 102
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Red Merle wrote:Good point. All LRE cars are silver or white and are also likely to have a registration beginning with "O".
Beyond that, I'm not sure of a definitive answer.
That is one of my concerns, silver is on my list of preferred colours!
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| 10th Feb 2016 8:51 am |
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Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7440
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If you can get to see the V5 document, it will have the previous and the previous to that owner. It's highly unlikely that it would have ever been registered to LRE itself (any more than other manufacturers register hire cars, that the lease to hire companies, to the hire companies themselves - better to register them as the manufacturer's "Management" cars to have the best hope of resale). In the case of JLR, they are almost certainly registered as "Jaguar Land Rover Limited, Land Rover Company Vehicle MRC" whatever their original use by the company.
Unfortunately, if it's silver, this makes it impossible to tell between genuine "Management" cars and ex LRE nags 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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| 10th Feb 2016 9:13 am |
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Overlandorange
Member Since: 04 Feb 2016
Location: London
Posts: 7
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How often (annually) do LRE release they're D4's once it's finished within the LR department?
I fully understand that most users wouldn't touch these ex-LRE as they've seen 'work' however they'll have decent service and maintence.
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| 10th Feb 2016 10:48 am |
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lespes
Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Sitting Down
Posts: 2232
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The biggest giveaway I have found is a fire extinguisher fitted, in the Freelander this was in the boot on right hand side.
Sometimes this will be removed but their will be still be drill holes visible, though normally they remain fitted as they are a right PIA to remove.
A lot of cars are registered to Landrover Management, but only some are used at Experience centres, Colours as stated before and fire extinguisher fitted are the giveaways, as well as low mileage in its 1st yr as they do not cover many on the courses. Otherwise it is pretty difficult to tell D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
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| 10th Feb 2016 10:55 am |
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pcregeen
Member Since: 02 Feb 2008
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 421
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I cant see the issue to be fair. I understand the comments about third gear box and mud in radiator etc etc but I have a few friends with Disco and RRS and watching their wives drive around town, up kerbs and through pot holes I would take a LRE car over one that has been "looked after" on the school run. I also know of many people (on here to be fair) who have had all the same issues with cars fresh from the showroom of their local dealer.
Pete
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| 10th Feb 2016 11:09 am |
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xcentric
Member Since: 01 Apr 2015
Location: Shropshire, UK
Posts: 1081
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 land rover driven off road
If driven well, and regularly serviced, then a LRE experience car will, on average, be no worse than any other private sale, and potentially a lot better. And yes there maybe the odd one that has problems, just as there will be the odd one privately that has problems.....
It's a used car - the standard approach applies: check it out, assess how well used it has been, how well looked after, what price it's at, and make a decision based on those factors. It's much more a case of buying the specific car than any particular historical route to your potential ownership.....
So, yes I would consider one. I ended up buying one from a LR dealer with LR warranty, as it was the best car for that money I could find - I saw another at a dealer with a trashed underneath (dented chassis, rust everywhere, looked like it had lived in the sea), and a load of other good ones too. LRE or not was not a significant part of the equation.
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| 10th Feb 2016 3:50 pm |
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markate
Member Since: 17 Sep 2011
Location: England
Posts: 702
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Darbs wrote:Red Merle wrote:Good point. All LRE cars are silver or white and are also likely to have a registration beginning with "O".
Beyond that, I'm not sure of a definitive answer.
That is one of my concerns, silver is on my list of preferred colours!
Stopped using Silver in 2014 or thereabouts. Now nearly all are white
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| 10th Feb 2016 5:53 pm |
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Treetrimmer
Member Since: 17 May 2014
Location: Billericay, Essex
Posts: 109
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My 2012 D4 HSE is ex Land Rover, and the Dealer told me that any "OV" registration indicated that. The log book shows the previous owner as "Land Rover internal fleet, Upper Heyford, Bicester".
The colour is Siberian Silver, but it has so many extras (Fridge, T.V., Vision Assist, Heated Steering wheel etc) I feel certain it was a Management car rather than a L.R.E. Vehicle, but you never know!
There is no sign of a Fire Extinguisher having been fitted. I bought it as a low mileage, (10,000 in a 18 months ) well specced vehicle, and have not been disappointed. Just before the 3 year warranty expired, I booked an early M.O.T., and asked the guy to be really tough. The only thing he could find was a weeping Power Steering rack, which I insisted got changed by the dealer before the 3 year warranty expired.
However, it is just beginning to show some intermittent faults (Sat Nav sometimes not working and sometimes the Reversing Camera not working) but I don't think those faults are the result of excessive off reading. I purchased the expensive Land Rover extended warranty, so it's about to go back to the Dealer for those faults to be repaired.
So, provided you buy at a sensible price, don't be frightened about buying an ex Land Rover Disco!
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| 10th Feb 2016 6:32 pm |
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