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Anyone got any photos of before and after so you can easily identify whether it's been done?
Many thanks in advance.....
10th Jan 2015 9:42 am
Sydney
Member Since: 11 Aug 2013
Location: St Neots
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Mine was done in 2009 and had to go back in 2014 to get it sorted again.De-Tango
V8 Brakes
EGRs blanked
Running boards
3 flash indicators and clock on dash
Blingy grille...
10th Jan 2015 9:47 am
geoff.
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Too slow. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
10th Jan 2015 9:51 am
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
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Thanks Gents! You are both true scholars!
Been out and checked under the bonnet of the G4 and mine reassuringly looks the same!
Many many thanks!
10th Jan 2015 11:05 am
dreynolds10
Member Since: 11 Jun 2013
Location: Berks
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Here is a pic of the back of my Vacuum pump. I can't see any date stamp but wondered if there are any clues as to when this unit was manufactured?
If the manufacture date was after the year of the car (06) then I can assume the pump was replaced during the recall. If the date was prior to 06 then either the pump was never changed or the pump was changed with an older unit and I believe the new "fixed" units were post 07.
Does anyone know how to tell from the date from the batch number or whether this pump is the newer type with the remediated Non Return Valve or the older type?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Iain
Disco3 project
10th Jan 2015 7:08 pm
DN D3 Decade
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Location: W.London.
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To me it looks like the date of manufacture would be on that round impression at top left of picture ( can only see half of it). Mine is original (9 yrs old) and still operating without further oil migration,I did the mod myself because at the time was not in the vin range (until I contacted VOSA with my findings ). If yours has had the recall, both connections on top of the vac pump will be being used( hence one original pipe connection,plus the extra one,both of which may now be the Heath Robinson jobbie. If yours has only 1 pipe connected and a blank on the other connection it will not have had the recall. Worth noting that replacing the vacuum pump itself was not generally considered necessary, usually new servo, new check valve and pipe work from vac pump and new master cylinder only if oil contamination found.
10th Jan 2015 7:20 pm
dreynolds10
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Location: Berks
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Hi DN
Thanks for the reply. For clarification my car has had the recall. It's got the Heath Robinson contraption and also has the dual pipe connections on the vacuum pump that you are referring to.
If the manufacture date is the stamp at the top left of the pic then this states 13 06. Obviously 13 must be a batch but 06 could be the year of manufacture. If so then the pump was not changed.
My concern with the recall is that dealers could replace the piping and check valve and not bother checking for oil ingress in/out of the servo/pump/master cylinder.
My issue now is that I have definitely got oil in all 3 (pumps/master cylinder/servo) so need to get it fixed again.
I see that some people on here have had to have this done twice at dealers so obviously short cuts are being taken.
My preferred option now would be for Land Rover to supply me with a new pump,servo and master cylinder and then fit them myself. At least then I know they will have been done right.
Not sure if this would be an option or how to go about raising this directly with JLR. Otherwise I will have to go back to the dealer which I don't really want to do.Disco3 project
10th Jan 2015 8:15 pm
DN D3 Decade
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Date of manuf is prob week 13 of '06 then. Sorry I had not read your earlier post. Difficult to do much as you have the car in pieces. Worth asking about being provided with the necessary parts to do the job yet again though, but they may insist it is done at a stealership Pete @ LR customer service on here may be a help. You could also mention it to VOSA, (as I had to do, because LR had their heads up their own @rses,insisting it was only a certain VIN range that had this problem, when in fact all early D3's were affected).
10th Jan 2015 8:28 pm
dreynolds10
Member Since: 11 Jun 2013
Location: Berks
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Ah yes - week 13 makes sense.
I will give Pete a go and see what happens. Easier to fit now car is in bits and cheaper for JLR as they won't have to pay the dealer labour but that is obviosuly too sensible and too logical
Either way it needs to be done hopefully Pete can help.
CheersDisco3 project
10th Jan 2015 8:53 pm
Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
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It's definately week 13 of 2006 which would be about the last week in March 2006.. Be aware that that is only the date of manufacture of that unit not when it was fitted.....dependent on where that component was made and allowing for batch manufacture, shipping etc I would anticipate that going onto the production line around late April early May and potentially being registered May /June 2006 if it didn't go to storage....
10th Jan 2015 10:52 pm
dreynolds10
Member Since: 11 Jun 2013
Location: Berks
Posts: 166
Hi FC
Your date estimates are spot on - Car rolled off the production line in May 06 so this makes sense.
On re-reading the recall letter P017 (link below) it appears that they didn't actually replace the Vacuum Pump but were supposed to install a new Non-Return Valve inside the pump (plus the additional piping). No clear way to check this was ever done though but as I definitely have oil in my brake system I will have to fight again to get a new servo and Master Cylinder
What will authorized repairers do to the vehicles?
Authorized repairers will fit a modified vacuum pipe with an additional connection to the vacuum pump secondary outlet port, a revised NRV within the vacuum pump and an additional vacuum NRV at the highest point in the vacuum pipe. For vehicles which are at risk from the oil migration concern, authorized repairers will also inspect the brake booster and master cylinder for signs of oil contamination and replace affected components as necessary.Disco3 project
11th Jan 2015 11:07 am
DN D3 Decade
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Your vacuum pump may need replacing if it is allowing vast amounts of eng oil through it, and with the body off, would be an ideal time to do that. At the very least, I would suggest replacing the nrv in the upper connection in the vac pump again( assuming it was in fact fitted in the first place),this is accessible, if a bit fiddly, and also the pipe work containing another nrv, otherwise oil will probably continue to migrate into your new servo and m/cyl . When I did mine, all the parts were available as per the P017 paperwork.
11th Jan 2015 11:25 am
dreynolds10
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Location: Berks
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Thanks DN
I will definitely go about replacing all the parts as 1) its dangerous and needs doing 2) its accessible at the moment so no point in doing after the body is back on.
Have pinged Pete@LR to see if he can help out with the parts - fingers crossed
Will update once I hear back.
CheersDisco3 project
11th Jan 2015 1:41 pm
zoneout
Member Since: 28 Oct 2015
Location: Cape Town
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Any luck on this? Did you fit another vacuum pump? If so, is it a different part number or design? I am going through this now, also the second time around!
Agreed, the P017 didn't ever oblige LR to replace the pump itself. I am not sure whether the NRV they speak about is the one which fits into the outlet of the vacuum pump (and which is replaced when you fit the new piping, there is a spare valve and spring in the kit)? Or whether there is another valve deeper in the pump.
Am interested to know whether LR helped you out with the new parts as well.
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Pete @ LR customer service on here may be a help. 
You could also mention it to VOSA, (as I had to do, because LR had their heads up their own @rses,insisting it was only a certain VIN range that had this problem, when in fact all early D3's were affected).
