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Removing 2nd row middle seat - is it worth it?
Hi,
we usually have our Engel box on the collapsed middle seat in the back, between the kids. This is fine, but I wondered whether it would be worthwhile removing the middle seat and either use the space for more luggage or to seat the Engel box lower.
Has anyone done something like this? Maybe for other useful uses? Or are there pictures around?
Thanks and cheers,
Thorsten
22nd Feb 2013 10:15 am
grzesiul
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been done by a few on here before
22nd Feb 2013 10:17 am
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Just don't forget to fill all the unused fixing holes with the original bolts, otherwise you'll get a very soggy carpet.
22nd Feb 2013 10:20 am
Miesmacher
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@grzesiul: I tried the search, of course, but never found any real reference. Can you indicate a good search term or recall the name of a member who did this?
@DSL: Don't tell me these holes link to the outside? I see an excellent opportunity to discard old chewing gums and the like...
22nd Feb 2013 10:28 am
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They sure do, as some have found out due to squelching.
22nd Feb 2013 10:31 am
Miesmacher
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OK, so I found pictures of the fridges in place (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic68226.html) but did anyone take pictures with the seat taken out or has other useful tips and hints?
Cheerio,
Thorsten
22nd Feb 2013 6:29 pm
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It's dead easy to take out, 4 or 6 torx 55 bolts and the whole thing lifts out. Simples!! Might be a bit awkward with the other 2 in place though. Also I copper-slip the bolts when they go back to plug the holes as I have seats in for the winter and load deck in for rest of the year. I've replaced the torx bolts with high tensile normal bolts as much easier to work with.
22nd Feb 2013 8:01 pm
Miesmacher
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"load deck"?
That sounds interesting any pictures?
Your point about the copper is well noted, thanks!
22nd Feb 2013 8:11 pm
DiscoStu
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6 bolts. Much easier with a torx ratchet bit. Put the other two seats in the vertical position (up as though someone was getting into the boot seats) to lift the middle seat out.
You'll need a plate to mount the fridge base on as the floor isn't flat under there.
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22nd Feb 2013 8:25 pm
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My fridge base (in my first D3):
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These spacers lift the base off of the uneven floor and keep it level
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22nd Feb 2013 8:30 pm
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Miesmacher wrote:
"load deck"?
Dealer fitted commercial kit (not LR) from a D3. Bolts to the floor using a few seat bolt holes. Engel and other clobber gets bolted or strapped to the deck. Simples.
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22nd Feb 2013 8:30 pm
Miesmacher
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Thanks to you both, DiscoStu and DSL. That is impressive as well as encouraging. I can't see my own fridge base plate even closely as perfect, but I'll manage.
Our plan is to go to Scotland this summer - not sure if bringing a fridge is necessary there , but now I am prepared!
Cheerio,
Thorsten
22nd Feb 2013 11:21 pm
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I have a very similar set up to Stu and it provides easy access to the fridge ...not only from either side of the vehicle externally but also from the front cabin 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
22nd Feb 2013 11:27 pm
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beanie wrote:
Hope that's ok Del
No worries. Though that was couple of weeks ago with the middle row if seats in place. They'll get taken out on April and the wooden deck will continue through to the back of the front seats.
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