Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 1600
Ok, having finally done some meaningful journeys in the D3 i can report (not very scientifically) that i used to struggle to get near 30mpg on the dash, now getting 31/32 mpg, so a meaningful improvement i think. TSL's friction reducing qualities must be rather good!
I shall be ordering some more for the rest of the fleet.
I'm sure an earlier post stated that washing up liquid could do the same job, well when i get my next batch of TSL i'll try washing the dirty dishes with it and report back!!
24th Aug 2012 1:30 pm
BrianT
Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 2069
Further update:-
Was down south again last week and got 28.9 with the MTR's.
For MY car that is an all time best with the MTR's on with a tank range of 566.6
BrianT MY 16 Landmark Santorini Black
MY 05 SE Adriatic Blue (Gone but not forgotten)
27th Aug 2012 8:28 am
Hess
Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: Highlands
Posts: 1533
566 Miles on the tank range divided by 18.02 gallons (82 litre tank capacity)
would indicate that your average was actually 31.41 MPG
If that's a 3 MPG improvement on what you were getting then
your savings with TSL would be as follows:
Distance: 10.000 Miles (One oil cycle)
Old MPG: 28
Fuel price: £ 1.42
Total cost: £ 2305.52
Distance: 10.000 Miles (One oil cycle)
New MPG: 31
Fuel price: £ 1.42
Total cost: £ 2082.40
Savings with TSL = £ 223.12
That'll pay for the TSL, the oil for the next oil change
and a nice amount of diesel!
30th Aug 2012 9:41 pm
anjo14
Member Since: 27 Apr 2012
Location: Lanarkshire
Posts: 562
TSL stuff arrived today so will be using it when I get home in a few weeks time.
31st Aug 2012 8:00 pm
David_Ritzema
Member Since: 12 Jun 2011
Location: Longfield, Kent
Posts: 7
The TSL arrived in the post yesterday. As I needed to get some bits & pieces at the local trade park, I took the TSL with me and, after making my purchases, I poured in the contents of the 250ml bottle and then let the engine idle for the recommended 5 minutes.
Whilst manouvering my D4 out of the car park just on idle, the vehicle was noticeably faster. Back on the main road, the engine felt smoother and seemed to accelerate more easily. I'll report back on fuel consumption later this month after a trip to Germany.
1st Sep 2012 1:47 pm
Captain Slow
Member Since: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Herts
Posts: 459
well having had TSL in my D3 for a number of weeks I am still happy. the NVH has dropped considerably and I have noticed a small improvement in economy, but then again I have a roof rack and winch fitted! I will be placing another order as I for my next service Prince Harry's D3: G4 factory equipped D3 - expo rack, winch, roof lights, ladder, active locking rear diff, RAI, Melville & Moon seat covers, General Grabber ATs/ Goodyear Duratrac
1st Sep 2012 5:15 pm
oh no
Member Since: 22 Apr 2007
Location: berkshire
Posts: 59
Update on using TSL.
I added TSL to my FFRR with 80,000 miles on about 2weeks ago.
The engine is muck quieter and turns over faster on start up
Fuel economy is up 2mpg.
A great product and great services from Hess
Stephen.
2nd Sep 2012 5:32 pm
MRWOO
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 193
I have bloke vision, where do I buy this from (best price)?
Ta1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
1981 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1982 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!
1959 Series II Truck Cab
1984 Series 3 88" CSW
2004 Defender 90 CSW
2016 Disco 4 Landmark
2nd Sep 2012 7:03 pm
MRWOO
Member Since: 26 Jun 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 193
MRWOO wrote:
I have bloke vision, where do I buy this from (best price)?
Ta
It's ok chaps an chapesses, my bloke vision has improved after another dose of of my favourite lubrication!
Probably the best engine lube in the world, if TSL made ..............?1964 Series IIA SWB Truck Cab - gone
1981 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1982 Series III SWB Hardtop - gone
1997 300Tdi Defender 90 Hardtop - gone
1983 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
1979 Series III SWB Station Wagon - gone
2007 90 CSW - gone
2010 USW XS - gone
2006 Disco3 - awesome & gone!
1959 Series II Truck Cab
1984 Series 3 88" CSW
2004 Defender 90 CSW
2016 Disco 4 Landmark
2nd Sep 2012 7:28 pm
Oswiperus D3 Decade
Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 1600
My second batch of tsl arrived safe and sound yesterday, thanks Hess.
Stu
2nd Sep 2012 7:49 pm
piper5
Member Since: 01 Jul 2012
Location: fife
Posts: 116
Mine arrived today , will report back soon
3rd Sep 2012 8:33 pm
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
Posts: 6917
Mine arrived safe and sound - will use at the right time
3rd Sep 2012 8:42 pm
biskit
Member Since: 23 Dec 2009
Location: in my Mancave.
Posts: 1376
Got the oil and filter changed today, took the D3 for a 5mile run, all was well and sounding normal, popped the TSL in and back out for a further 5mile run, how much quieter the engine sounded and seemed to be running better 8) i ordered some more for SWMBOs Polo Mantec sump guard.
Prospeed tree slider/steps.
Flack duel battery system.
18"Compomotive/AT3 tyres
Brembo 4pot front brakes
4th Sep 2012 7:36 pm
therso
Member Since: 01 Dec 2010
Location: Here!
Posts: 368
Right! 1000 miles by motorway/A Roads/B Roads/Farm tracks. SW Scotland & Borders from North Notts. Had a remap in Jan and been adding 2-stroke for >6months. Nevertheless, definite mpg increase and very quiet. Best onboard mpg indicated - 39.7 at 50mph with 2 on board, no load. Not bad but I was actually towing a caravan (Eriba Touring Troll 540GT) for most of the time. Best figures indicated? 28.2mpg.
Sooooooo, my opinion? A definite improvement in performance, mpg and, most certainly, a noticeable reduction in engine noise.
Have already pointed two Disco 3 owners to this site and recommended they consider purchasing this product (along with adding 2-stroke, re-mapping, mods, additions, shiny stuff, non-shiny stuff, this, that and the other).
6th Sep 2012 1:06 pm
Bodsy Site Sponsor
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: In the Clubhouse
Posts: 21361
posted this elsewhere, but I thought it might be interesting on here as well. I've just ordered a Litre from Hess.
The 1L bottle then does 6 oil changes (If I've got my maths right!)
1. 1 x 250ml 1st aplication - 250ml used
2. 1 x 150ml 2nd application - 400ml used
3. 1 x 150ml 3rd application - 550ml used
4. 1 x 150ml 4th application - 700ml used
5. 1 x 150ml 5th application - 850ml used
6. 1 x 150ml 6th application - 1000ml used
6 oil changes = 19.41 per oil change. even 0.5mpg improvement would see (over 15,000 mile)
I get about 24mpg = 26.48p per mile. (1.40/l)
If I got 24.5mpg = 25.94p per mile
saving 0.54p per mile
multiply by 15000 miles = £81 - £19.41 TSL cost = 61.59 saved overall. So makes sense even with such a minmal saving.
Cost of 2 stroke oil in diesel
1 litre = £5.00 (asda special price)
200ml oil per fill = £1.25 per fill
17.62 gallons = 432 miles based on 24.5mpg (Assumed same improvement in MPG)
= 34.72 refills to do 15000 miles
34.72 * £1.25 = 43.40 cost
Improvement (assuming 0.5mpg with 2 stroke oil = £81 saving - £43.40 cost = £37.6 saving overall.
Plus you have to remember to put it in each tank.
So I think I'll go for the 1Litre TSL.
In reality, I'll also put it in the Defender, perhaps it will reduce it's tractor like noise a little.
I need to change my engine oil next week as Ive done about 2k on the new engine, and want to change oil/filter before Pyrenees. :thumbright:
Actually Ive just checked my MPG log and over the last 2 years, I've averaged 21mpg.... so 0.5mpg will save me even more. I can keep a log of my mpg as I always have done. should be easy to compare/check for any improvement.
Worth a punt anyway I feel as I did put 2 stroke in Buttercup's defender and it did make it quieter. My engine should be worn in by now (unless Hess has advice to not put it in yet?)
I keep good records of all my fill-ups, so will update after the pyrenees trip and beyond.Bodsys Brake Bible
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