R500sac
Member Since: 14 May 2011
Location: Monmouth, South Wales
Posts: 141
 
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My car is a 2006 HSE with 101,000 miles, no EGR valves and autologic chip, currently running 18" GG AT2.
Prior to using 2 stroke I got 450 to 500 per tank full (very roughly 27.5mpg to 29.5mpg).
For the last two tankfuls I've added 330ml of JASO FB. It looks like the range will now be 500 to 570 miles - or 29.5mpg to 33.5mpg. This tankful may just about touch 600 miles. Displayed MPG starts over 36mpg and drops to 34mpg after a few cold starts (each journey has about half a mile off road at the start and finish too).
A 10% improvement is impressive - about £700 a year saving.
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 6th Sep 2012 8:01 pm |
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Donny
Member Since: 05 Mar 2009
Location: South Yorks & Merseyside
Posts: 178
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I talked about two stroke into diesel around two years ago.... http://disco3.co.uk/forum/topic57975.html
and had the p  s taken by some established members 
Just goes to show how times have changed around here....... 
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| 6th Sep 2012 8:07 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Very true  Tis witchcraft I tell thee 
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| 7th Sep 2012 12:05 pm |
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A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2821
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Started using this tonight, have mineral oil from halfrauds in along with V power diesel.
Have cleaned the MAP sensor as well, so hoping for a nice change in mpg. 
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| 8th Sep 2012 10:41 pm |
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Hess
Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: Highlands
Posts: 1533
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Bodsy wrote:posted this elsewhere, but I thought it might be interesting on here as well. I've just ordered a Litre from Hess.
The 1L bottle then does 6 oil changes (If I've got my maths right!)
1. 1 x 250ml 1st aplication - 250ml used
2. 1 x 150ml 2nd application - 400ml used
3. 1 x 150ml 3rd application - 550ml used
4. 1 x 150ml 4th application - 700ml used
5. 1 x 150ml 5th application - 850ml used
6. 1 x 150ml 6th application - 1000ml used
6 oil changes = 19.41 per oil change. even 0.5mpg improvement would see (over 15,000 mile)
I get about 24mpg = 26.48p per mile. (1.40/l)
If I got 24.5mpg = 25.94p per mile
saving 0.54p per mile
multiply by 15000 miles = £81 - £19.41 TSL cost = 61.59 saved overall. So makes sense even with such a minmal saving.
Cost of 2 stroke oil in diesel
1 litre = £5.00 (asda special price)
200ml oil per fill = £1.25 per fill
17.62 gallons = 432 miles based on 24.5mpg (Assumed same improvement in MPG)
= 34.72 refills to do 15000 miles
34.72 * £1.25 = 43.40 cost
Improvement (assuming 0.5mpg with 2 stroke oil = £81 saving - £43.40 cost = £37.6 saving overall.
Plus you have to remember to put it in each tank.
So I think I'll go for the 1Litre TSL.
In reality, I'll also put it in the Defender, perhaps it will reduce it's tractor like noise a little.
I need to change my engine oil next week as Ive done about 2k on the new engine, and want to change oil/filter before Pyrenees. :thumbright:
Actually Ive just checked my MPG log and over the last 2 years, I've averaged 21mpg.... so 0.5mpg will save me even more. I can keep a log of my mpg as I always have done. should be easy to compare/check for any improvement.
Worth a punt anyway I feel as I did put 2 stroke in Buttercup's defender and it did make it quieter. My engine should be worn in by now (unless Hess has advice to not put it in yet?)
I keep good records of all my fill-ups, so will update after the pyrenees trip and beyond.
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| 10th Sep 2012 1:24 pm |
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dantheman
Member Since: 12 Mar 2010
Location: Essex
Posts: 1728
 
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Would i be right in saying that 2t gives other benefits than just fuel economy - fuel pumps etc. I know a member using both and his trip made good reading. Any reason not to use both?
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| 10th Sep 2012 1:45 pm |
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Hess
Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: Highlands
Posts: 1533
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I would strongly encourage using both as TSL does bring other benefits to the engine which 2 Stroke Oil does not.
One goes in the engine oil, the other in the fuel.
Bodsy's calculation merely shows that time and money wise, if you were to use TSL instead of 2 Stroke
oil it would be easier, as you don't have to administer TSL to every tank of fuel
and cheaper for similar benefits.
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| 10th Sep 2012 1:51 pm |
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dantheman
Member Since: 12 Mar 2010
Location: Essex
Posts: 1728
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Thats good. Even though inbetween services i think i will put some tsl in and get some 2t as well.
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| 10th Sep 2012 1:55 pm |
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Andy Foster
Member Since: 27 Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6551
  
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Just getting ready to read the full thread and thought I would just let you know Asda are doing "Castrol Actevo 2T" oil for £4/l.
Don't know if this is the right one to use.
Right the kettle is on SWMBO is out so here goes.
Andy
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| 11th Sep 2012 7:50 pm |
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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
Posts: 10604
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Andy
This is the right one.
Where in ASDA - just searched their website & ASDA direct - no luck.
Is this the local store price? If so I'm off to buy a few litres @ £4
NJSS Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
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| 11th Sep 2012 7:57 pm |
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Andy Foster
Member Since: 27 Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6551
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NJSS wrote:Andy
This is the right one.
Where in ASDA - just searched their website & ASDA direct - no luck.
Is this the local store price? If so I'm off to buy a few litres @ £4
NJSS
Local store price. Asda Aintree to be precise. Company I work for carry out all maintenance in all stores so will check price tomorrow when I buy all available stock 
Just a thought when's best to add before or after filling up or does it not matter.
Andy
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| 11th Sep 2012 8:21 pm |
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sarumlight
Member Since: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Off the Plain
Posts: 1592
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Tip it in at the pump before filling up - then it'll get well mixed in
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| 11th Sep 2012 8:27 pm |
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pigeon
Member Since: 10 Sep 2011
Location: gloucester
Posts: 685
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been using it my defender for a while now ,just seeing a difference in mpg and performance .
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| 12th Sep 2012 10:29 am |
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Andy Foster
Member Since: 27 Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 6551
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Still £4/L in Asda.
Andy
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| 12th Sep 2012 7:00 pm |
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B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
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Will have to try in-store as it still £7.50 on-line. 
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| 13th Sep 2012 11:12 am |
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