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buzz569
Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Midlands
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I'm not dismissive of the steering benefits (I'm used to driving rear wheel drive cars with chains on), I'm just slightly nervous of the tight clearance against the suspension when chains are fitted on the front.
On youtube videos of what look to be Landrover Experience centres in the US using Discos and RR Sports in deep snow they have chains fitted on the rear which contradicts the handbook advice. I was just trying to understand if Landrovers advice was based on the steering benefits of fitting them on the front or on a genuine technical reason why they couldn't be fitted to the rear.
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 18th Jan 2012 10:38 pm |
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doleawg
Member Since: 30 Jul 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 768
 
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Conditions that faced us leaving the Alps Friday afternoon. It was a slow, long drive down a steep hill, from 2,200m to when the snow turned to rain at 1,000m. Chains a must even with the Disco.
However locals have a simpler theory, if you drive a Renault 5 and put your hazards on that means you don't need snow chains. they are mad.....
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| 22nd Jan 2012 11:47 am |
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jsamuelson
Member Since: 07 Feb 2011
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 214
 
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In Switzerland, once again it isn't strictly speaking the law to have or use chains.
But - there is a law that states your car must be properly prepared for the road conditions. In snowy and icy conditions this is very clearly interpreted as a) winter tyres and/or b) snow chains.
I have been fined for not having winter rubber on (in the mountains, very light snow, in an Audi with Quattro), and a friend of ours was just hit with a whopping fine of around CHF800 on the motorway for the same.
Here also, if it's really bad, they will set up a checkpoint on the way up the mountain and pull people over to fit their chains or turn them back if they have none.
Bottom line - they are saying be prepared or stay put. There is some logic to that.
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| 2nd Feb 2012 2:24 pm |
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doleawg
Member Since: 30 Jul 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 768
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jsamuelson... My brother lives in Geneva and he says it is the law there (Switzerland?) to have Winter tyres on from October. Suppose the logic is you can go to work in fine weather and come out to snow so you need to be prepared, here we just go to pieces.
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| 2nd Feb 2012 2:56 pm |
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jsamuelson
Member Since: 07 Feb 2011
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 214
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Again, it's not the law to have winter tyres fitted, not even in Geneva which can be a very uptight place indeed...
But - woe betide you if you are out on snowy roads without them. You will be stopped and fined.
And - if you have a prang without them it's automatically your fault and you may find your insurance company unwilling to cover you for it.
It's absolutely standard for everyone to switch to winter tyres in October/November. Almost everyone has two sets, winter and summer, and your dealer/garage stores the set you're not using for a small fee.
I've never been forced to use chains here though...not yet. My rule of thumb is - if I see the public transport buses (whose drivers are notoriously fearless in Alpine winter conditions) stopping to put chains on, I don't venture out without very good reason!
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| 2nd Feb 2012 3:32 pm |
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doleawg
Member Since: 30 Jul 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 768
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jsamuelson wrote:My rule of thumb is - if I see the public transport buses (whose drivers are notoriously fearless in Alpine winter conditions) stopping to put chains on, I don't venture out without very good reason!
 
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| 2nd Feb 2012 3:35 pm |
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jsamuelson
Member Since: 07 Feb 2011
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 214
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Seriously, those guys (and gals, very egalitarian here) are insanely brave!
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| 2nd Feb 2012 3:45 pm |
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