DG
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Lesb wrote:Weight is not mentioned in the Annex, just refers to the "Dual Purpose Vehicle"
It is just ,
CLASSES OF VEHICLES FOR WHICH A
LICENCE IS NOT REQUIRED
and Point 2 is Dual Purpose vehicle.
Does not go into weights so then it must be as "Amended" like the document said.
But it's just specifying the Vehicle Class ...not making amendments to vehicle classes or there specified weights. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 26th Nov 2011 6:10 pm |
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character
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thought you guys might want some more specifics from our VOSA man in the know:
Morning Chris
Thanks for your reply, in fact I querying any futher developments regards our "Dual Purpose" Land Rover Discovery 3 and Brian James single car transporter used for hire and reward, but good to hear that our "goods vehicles" pulling trailers are still in line for a shock after 4th Dec 2011.
I saw that VOSA have just published guidance " A Guide for Horsebox and Trailer Owners " (10th Nov 2012) in which it seems to clarify much of what we had spoken about regards C&U Regs relating to a 4x4 combination, but would I be right to conclude that this publication is not just for the "horsey world" but can be used in more general terms in the absence of any similar guidance for the transport of cars for hire and reward?
Many thanks
REPLY
Yes
The regulations and requirements would be the same - be it horseboxes, or other types of HGVs.
Chris Slowley
Operator Licensing
Strategy and Customer Directorate
VOSA
LINK IS HERE FOR THE GUIDE TO HORSEBOX AND TRAILER OWNER
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/whatsnew/whatsnew.htm
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| 26th Nov 2011 11:34 pm |
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sj9011
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| 4th Dec O licence comes in any one been stopped or updates |
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The 4th is in any one been stopped by VOSA or anyone had any updates, like the exemption rules
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| 5th Dec 2011 9:41 pm |
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shawn
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what are the exemption rules, i bet its got something to do with farmers  bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 5th Dec 2011 9:47 pm |
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sj9011
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Dual Use vehicle
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| 5th Dec 2011 9:49 pm |
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Gareth
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Hmm, not heard from Character recently. Maybe he's been 'nabbed' already 
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| 5th Dec 2011 9:57 pm |
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shawn
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what is a duel use vehicle is it a vehicle used for business and pleasure ????????????? bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 5th Dec 2011 10:06 pm |
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sj9011
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Here we go again, 4x4 with rear seats fitted, if you are towing for reward and the weight of the unit(disco) and trailer with load exceeds 3.5 T you need a tacho PLS NOTE ONLY " FOR REWARD" so if you are do it for your own RIB, BOAT CAR transport you do not need the above, but if your mate pays for the fuel, VOSA will have you (just don't tell them that did).
See posts before very specific for commercail users only, !!!!!!
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| 5th Dec 2011 10:19 pm |
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lancsamb
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why do we need mexican food it we are towing commercially ?? Landrover Discovery 3 TDV6 S 7 seat Automatic
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| 5th Dec 2011 10:34 pm |
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sj9011
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Sure you got a disco not a RRS blinged up!!!
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| 5th Dec 2011 10:38 pm |
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character
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sj9011 wrote:Dual Use vehicle
wrong 
Its "dual purpose vehicle" as defined by Construction and Use Regulations 1986 is a 4x4 vehicle (whether LR or Car) which is constructed or altered for the carrying of "PASSENGERS and goods" so yer 110 Defender Van or Disco 3/4 Commercial with seating for one "Passenger" next to the driver is NOT EXEMPT from O Licence Regs however if it has rear seat/s so as to be able to carry "passengers" then yer ok.
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| 5th Dec 2011 11:57 pm |
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character
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sj9011 wrote:Here we go again, 4x4 with rear seats fitted, if you are towing for reward and the weight of the unit(disco) and trailer with load exceeds 3.5 T you need a tacho PLS NOTE ONLY " FOR REWARD" so if you are do it for your own RIB, BOAT CAR transport you do not need the above, but if your mate pays for the fuel, VOSA will have you (just don't tell them that did).
See posts before very specific for commercail users only, !!!!!!
I think we can work that out from the previous 11 pages on this thread, lets try not to repeat what's already posted chaps
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| 5th Dec 2011 11:58 pm |
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character
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shawn wrote:what are the exemption rules, i bet its got something to do with farmers
The only exemptions for farmers is the same as a tractor ie not more than 6 miles on the public roads
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| 6th Dec 2011 12:00 am |
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character
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Gareth wrote:Hmm, not heard from Character recently. Maybe he's been 'nabbed' already
Gareth, little bit of a showdown going on between VOSA and the man from DofT as of last Monday when I politely pointed out to each one what the advise was to me from them by copying in the emails to both of em
Surfice to say, reply from VOSA man was as follows:
Matthew
Thanks for sight of these emails. It would now appear that the Department for Transport are now giving the matter of DPVs some consideration. Clarification will - no doubt - be forthcoming in due course.
Regards
Chris Slowley
Operator Licensing
Strategy and Customer Directorate
VOSA
BTW, not heard anything as yet
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| 6th Dec 2011 12:05 am |
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