So just under a gallon a week or Around £5 a week working on £1.40 a ltr so if the cold mornings last from now until end of April, 30 weeks ish = about £150
How much is cherry red a ltrR
( I'm not a tight git honest )
This is double counting. If you pre-heat your engine you will use less fuel in the first 5 miles than if you hadn't done so. It still means that using the FBH to pre-heat costs more but not £150 a year. The benefit of course is personal comfort and reduced engine wear.
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15th Oct 2011 2:51 pm
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Yup....saddo that I am I went out deliberately to see if it would fire up,seeing as it was a balmy 4c here this morning.....No smoke,white or otherwise, so wasn't sure at first, but went round to the front wheelarch to be welcomed by the comforting smell of used hydrocarbons......
As the man from Hollywood (might) have said...." I love the smell of FBH in the morning)!"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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18th Oct 2011 8:19 am
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5 degrees - fired up
18th Oct 2011 8:35 am
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Smoke glorious smoke everywhere after 2 years of not firing up.
After last years bismall failure of no smoke i decided to remove the heater and stripped it down. on strip down i found the glow pin had split in 2. No wonder it would not work....
Hunted round found a second hand one. swopped the internals into mine and refit, was going to test fire and prime this weekend but hey no need it fired up this morning and got some crazy looks off people due to the amount of smoke coming out.
Now footnote the glow pin is not available from Webasto or JLR as only built for JLR. so if anyone else has the same problem the only way is to replace the unit i am afraid.
18th Oct 2011 9:15 am
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jdhx wrote:
mike23118 wrote:
So just under a gallon a week or Around £5 a week working on £1.40 a ltr so if the cold mornings last from now until end of April, 30 weeks ish = about £150
How much is cherry red a ltrR
( I'm not a tight git honest )
This is double counting. If you pre-heat your engine you will use less fuel in the first 5 miles than if you hadn't done so. It still means that using the FBH to pre-heat costs more but not £150 a year. The benefit of course is personal comfort and reduced engine wear.
But surely the 0.6 litres per hour is at full blast? How likely is it that the FBH will be called on to run at full wack for half an hour when the engine is also running or have you got the remote control?D4 SDV6 XS Orkney Grey
To pre-heat or not to pre-heat, that is the question.
The person posting that it costs up to £150 a year to pre-heat the car was not taking into account that a pre-heated car will have better fuel consumption in the first few miles from starting than one that has not been pre-heated.
My guess is that the actual extra cost of using a pre-heat (via remote or gsm box) is probably more like £50 a year and for that you also get less engine wear and you are cosy to boot.
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18th Oct 2011 12:52 pm
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18th Oct 2011 1:38 pm
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It’s always a bit of a relief when it lights up on the first cold morning of the year, it’s one less thing to fix, but does mean the colder weather is on it’s way.
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19th Oct 2011 7:59 am
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But surely the 0.6 litres per hour is at full blast? How likely is it that the FBH will be called on to run at full wack for half an hour when the engine is also running or have you got the remote control?
Also, the FBH can start up on very cold days even when the engine apparently warm, to maintain engine temp. If the air temp is below 6, and the coolant temp drops below 75 degrees, it will cut in. The TDV6 is very efficient, and does not produce an excess of heat. It has different power levels, including an idle setting.[/quote]
19th Oct 2011 8:27 am
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Same here, even though I know what to expect it looked as though it was on fire this morning as there was clouds of smoke billowing from the small exhaust port and under the bonnet (small leak in the flexi) as it fired up for the first time!!
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19th Oct 2011 8:29 am
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Mine too, 3° C on the dash this morning.
Started the engine (sluggishly !) and was greeted with "system fault" briefly on the dash, this quickly went off though so I assume that since I've been messing about in the car (hard wiring my Blackvue) and not driven any distance for the few days, the battery was probably a bit low.
Anyway much to my relief since I'd spent a large portion of Monday repairing the aux fuel pump wiring, that familiar roar ensued after a minute or so and I could feel the heat from the FBH exhaust.
Odd thing was though, it stopped working about this time last year and hasn't worked since, presumably due to the wiring fault, but on start-up this morning there was no smoke at all and very little smell, not that I'm complaining Clive
19th Oct 2011 9:32 am
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Mine fired up yesterday with the dash temp showing as 5C.
No smoke whatsoever which I thought a bit odd but it is definitely running as can hear it and the little exhaust pipe got hot. Dec 04 TDV6 HSE in Tonga green with Alpaca interior.
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I went out deliberately to see if it would fire up,seeing as it was a balmy 4c here this morning.....No smoke,white or otherwise, so wasn't sure at first, but went round to the front wheelarch to be welcomed by the comforting smell of used hydrocarbons......
Surely the first sign of winter for d3 s ,the smell and the
As he's enveloped inside the cabin smirking , 
